Finding the magnitude and direction in a electric field.

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electric field and forces due to three point charges arranged in an equilateral triangle on the X-Y plane. Part A focuses on determining the magnitude and direction of the electric field at the origin, emphasizing the principle of superposition and vector cancellation. Part B addresses the acceleration of an electron placed at the origin, which can be derived from the electric field calculated in Part A. Part C explores whether the acceleration of a proton would differ from that of the electron, concluding that the fundamental principles remain the same due to opposite charges attracting. The thread also includes a separate problem involving the electric field from a uniformly charged spherical surface, with users seeking guidance on integration techniques.
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Three point charges are placed at the vertices of an equilateral triangle (of side .2m). The triangle is setup on an X-Y plain. On the top of the triangle on the Y-axis the charge is q7= -7μC, the positive X-axis the charge is q3= 3μC, and on the -X-axis the charge is q2= 2μC.

Part A).
What is the magnitude and the direction of the electric field at the origin?

Part B).
What would be the acceleration (magnitude and direction) of an electron placed at the origin?

Part C).
Would the acceleration (magnitude and direction) of the proton be different than that of the electron? Explain.
 
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I'm going to parasite on this thread, because it deals with a similar topic.

Problem 2.7 Find the electric field a distance z from the center of a spherical surface of radius R, which carries a uniform charge density δ. Treat the case z < R as well as z > R. Express your answer in terms of the total charge q on the sphere.

the way i approached it was use the electric field equation,

E = \frac{1}{4\piε} \int \frac{1}{|r|^2} \widehat{r}dq

for which i substituted \widehat{r} = cosψ = \frac{z - Rcos\theta}{r} and for |r| = √R^2sin^2θ + (z - Rcosθ)^2 and dq = δda = δr^2sinθdθd\phi

where R is the radius of the sphere upon whos surface the charge is distributed.

Now i substitute all of these wonderful thing into the electric field equation, all giddy to finally solve it :D Integrating over the entire surface of the sphere, that is from 0 to \pi for d\theta and 0 to 2\pi for d\phi

E = \frac{1}{4\piε} \int \frac{1}{ (√R^2sin^2θ + (z - Rcosθ)^2)^2 }\frac{z - Rcos\theta}{(√R^2sin^2θ + (z - Rcosθ)^2)}δr^2sinθdθd\phi

\int d\phi = 2\pi nothing exciting there, parametrize u = cosθ, du = -sinθ dθ

E = \frac{1}{4\piε} \int \frac{δ(2\pi r^2sinθ)(z - Rcos\theta)}{ (√R^2sin^2θ + (z - Rcosθ)^2)^3 }dθ \Rightarrow E = \frac{1}{4\piε} \int \frac{δ(2\pi r^2sinθ)(z - Rcos\theta)}{ (√R^2 + z^2 - 2Rzcosθ)^3 }dθ \Rightarrow E = -\frac{1}{4\piε} \int \frac{δ(2\pi r^2)(z - Ru)}{ (√R^2 + z^2 - 2Rzu)^3 }du

at this point i pretty much just hur dur, try to integrate by partial fractions, and get nowhere because its like no other I've met before.

I realize this is a pretty standard integral, being an inverse cosine law and all. Any online resources?

Would someone please hint as to how to solve this, have i made any mistakes.

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Trap_Shooter said:
Three point charges are placed at the vertices of an equilateral triangle (of side .2m). The triangle is setup on an X-Y plain. On the top of the triangle on the Y-axis the charge is q7= -7μC, the positive X-axis the charge is q3= 3μC, and on the -X-axis the charge is q2= 2μC.

step one, draw the question. apply principle of superposition; consider one charge at a time, then sum individual forces.

Part A
think about which force vectors are going to cancel at the origin.

Part B
use the result from part A :D

Part C

is pretty vanilla. opposites attract.
 
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