Finding the magnitude of electric field

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the magnitude of an electric field between two oppositely charged parallel plates, with a proton released from rest at the positively charged plate. The scenario includes specific distances and time intervals for the proton's movement.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relevance of different equations for electric fields, with some questioning the application of Coulomb's law in this context. There are attempts to relate force, mass, and acceleration to find the electric field, and concerns about understanding the underlying concepts rather than just memorizing formulas.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on focusing on the force on a charge and using motion equations to derive necessary variables. There is acknowledgment of the challenges faced in understanding the material, with suggestions to seek help from professors and teaching assistants.

Contextual Notes

Participants express frustration with previous coursework and the struggle to grasp the material without examples. There is a mention of a lack of familiarity with certain equations relevant to the problem.

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Homework Statement


A uniform electric field exists in the region between two oppositely charged parallel plates 1.59 cmapart. A proton is released from rest at the surface of the positively charged plate and strikes the surface of the opposite plate in a time interval 1.50×10−6 s .

Find the magnitude of the electric field.
Use 1.60×10−19 C for the magnitude of the charge on an electron and 1.67×10−27 kg for the mass of a proton.

Homework Equations


Coulomb: F = kQq/r2
F=ma
F=qE
E=kQ/r2
a=F/m

The Attempt at a Solution


First I have taken this course last spring and failed it. I simply do not understand how I set up these problems and get answers without being given an example. I literally bang my head against my desk and now I am doing the exact same thing just in a new semester. So I attempted to solve the problem this way.

I took E=kQ/r2 thinking that I could simly take the magnitude of Charge times Coloumbs constand divided by the distance squared. I get this E = 1.60*10-19 * 9*109 / 0.01592 to get 9*10-8 N/C. It's wrong. So I looked up a way to do this problem by Googling how to find electric field between two planes. I get E = V/d, but that is something we haven't learned yet so I think I am missing something and simply do not know where to go. How do you find electric field magnitude with the given equations? More so, how can I learn to tackle these problems since I just keep going one after the other not knowing what to do?

Thanks for any and all help given!
 
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jlmccart03 said:
E=kQ/r2
This is the electric field around a point charge, which is not relevant here.
jlmccart03 said:
How do you find electric field magnitude with the given equations?
You should first find the equation for the force on a charge. Once you have this, you can work out the needed variables from F=ma and the one-dimensional motion equations.
 
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jlmccart03 said:
I literally bang my head against my desk
We've all been there...
jlmccart03 said:
More so, how can I learn to tackle these problems since I just keep going one after the other not knowing what to do?
There's no simple answer. My best advice is to try and understand the meaning of the formulas and their relation to reality as thoroughly as possible. Once you do that, it is just a matter of algebra. The biggest mistake you can make is to just try and memorize equations and hope they work.
 
NFuller said:
This is the electric field around a point charge, which is not relevant here.

You should first find the equation for the force on a charge. Once you have this, you can work out the needed variables from F=ma and the one-dimensional motion equations.
I managed to figure it out all on my own! And yeah I struggled last semester. I going to see my professor and TA's to see what I can do to make sure I understand the material. It's possible, I know I can do it, it just takes time and persistance to fight for an A in the class, but better an understading of how to do physics. Thanks!
 
jlmccart03 said:

Homework Statement


A uniform electric field exists in the region between two oppositely charged parallel plates 1.59 cmapart. A proton is released from rest at the surface of the positively charged plate and strikes the surface of the opposite plate in a time interval 1.50×10−6 s .

Find the magnitude of the electric field.
Use 1.60×10−19 C for the magnitude of the charge on an electron and 1.67×10−27 kg for the mass of a proton.

Homework Equations


Coulomb: F = kQq/r2
F=ma
F=qE
E=kQ/r2
a=F/m

The Attempt at a Solution


First I have taken this course last spring and failed it. I simply do not understand how I set up these problems and get answers without being given an example. I literally bang my head against my desk and now I am doing the exact same thing just in a new semester. So I attempted to solve the problem this way.

I took E=kQ/r2 thinking that I could simly take the magnitude of Charge times Coloumbs constand divided by the distance squared. I get this E = 1.60*10-19 * 9*109 / 0.01592 to get 9*10-8 N/C. It's wrong. So I looked up a way to do this problem by Googling how to find electric field between two planes. I get E = V/d, but that is something we haven't learned yet so I think I am missing something and simply do not know where to go. How do you find electric field magnitude with the given equations? More so, how can I learn to tackle these problems since I just keep going one after the other not knowing what to do?

Thanks for any and all help given!
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I guess this will help.
 

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