Finding the point on the graph where the tangent is parallel

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The problem involves finding the point on the graph of y = sqrt(2x - 1) where the tangent line is parallel to the line given by the equation x - 3y = 16. The discussion centers around determining the slope of the given line and the derivative of the function to find the corresponding points.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss finding the slope of the line by rearranging the equation and express uncertainty about the derivative of the function. There are attempts to clarify the derivative using the chain rule and questions about the correctness of previous calculations.

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The discussion is ongoing with participants providing guidance on derivative calculations and slope determination. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the rearrangement of the line equation and the application of the chain rule, with some participants confirming calculations while others seek clarification.

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Participants are navigating through potential errors in sign and derivative calculations, and there is a focus on ensuring clarity in mathematical expressions. The original poster's attempts at finding the correct points are met with both support and requests for verification of their reasoning.

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Homework Statement



Find the point on the graph y = sqrt 2x-1 where the tangent line is parallel to x - 3y = 16


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The Attempt at a Solution



So what I started off was was trying to find the slope of x - 3y = 16. I rearranged the equation to a y = equation and got 16-x /-3 which I got a slope of -3.

Then I went to find the deriviative of y = sqrt 2x-1 which I get (x - 1/2)exp-1/2

From there i get a little lost. The derivative = the slope of the tangent which would get me my x and y points, but my x values get a lot wonky. Would somebody be able to lead me in the right direction of finding my x point?

Thanks!
 
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meeklobraca said:
So what I started off was was trying to find the slope of x - 3y = 16. I rearranged the equation to a y = equation and got 16-x /-3 which I got a slope of -3.
!

Be careful with your negative signs!

[tex]y=16-\frac{x}{-3}=16+\frac{x}{3}[/tex]

so your slope is ___?:wink:

Then I went to find the deriviative of y = sqrt 2x-1 which I get (x - 1/2)exp-1/2

You should double check your derivative too!:wink:
 
OKay, with that then I get a slope of 1/3, I am still not clear on the derivative though? If its
(2x-1)exp 1/2, wouldn't that be (1/2)(2x-1)exp-1/2?
 
meeklobraca said:
OKay, with that then I get a slope of 1/3, I am still not clear on the derivative though? If its
(2x-1)exp 1/2, wouldn't that be (1/2)(2x-1)exp-1/2?

You need to use the chain rule:

[tex]\frac{d}{dx} (2x-1)^{1/2}=\frac{1}{2}(2x-1)^{-1/2}\cdot\frac{d}{dx}(2x-1)[/tex]
 
Okay, this is what I've got from your equation.

1/2(2x-1)-1/2 x 2

(2x-1)-1/2

So with that then I have the deriviative equaling the slope of the tangent which I've figured to be 1/3.

How do I get rid of that negative exponent?
 
To answer my own question, I took the reciprocal of the 2x-1 line so I got

1/(2x-1) = 1/9 A little cross multiplication and I landed x = 5?

Throw that into the equation and we get a y value of 3, therefore the answer is (5,3)?


haha, sorry bud I am editting this as your trying to reply, it dawned on me in like 5 seconds, what did I do with the square root??
 
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meeklobraca said:
To answer my own question, I took the reciprocal of the 2x-1 line so I got

1/(2x-1) = 1/9 A little cross multiplication and I landed x = 5?

Throw that into the equation and we get a y value of 3, therefore the answer is (5,3)?

Looks good to me :smile:
 
gabbagabbahey said:
Be careful with your negative signs!

[tex]y=16-\frac{x}{-3}=16+\frac{x}{3}[/tex]

How come you got 16 + x/3 and not 16-x/-3?

Wouldnt diving 16-x by -3 equal 16/-3 - x/-3?
 
He was assuming you meant what you said!

16- x/-3 means 16- (x/-3). If you mean (16- x)/-3 you should have used parentheses to make that clear.
 
  • #10
So which is it that I go from?

If you have x - 3y = 16 how do you adjust that to make it a y = equation?
 
  • #11
x-3y=16 -> x-16=3y -> (x-16)/3=y -> x/3-16/3=y. This shouldn't be the hardest part of the problem. gabba didn't check the derivation from the start.
 
  • #12
If you wouldn't mind confirming for me, but I don't think that changes anything, my answer of (5,10) is still correct?
 
  • #13
meeklobraca said:
If you wouldn't mind confirming for me, but I don't think that changes anything, my answer of (5,10) is still correct?

x=5 is good. But if y=sqrt(2x-1) what does that make y?
 
  • #14
Yup, sorry I misread my answer, my answer was (5,3)
 
  • #15
meeklobraca said:
Yup, sorry I misread my answer, my answer was (5,3)

That's fine.
 

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