Finding the Real Lie Algebra of SL(n,H) in GL(n,H)

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The discussion revolves around finding the real Lie algebra of the group SL(n,H), specifically within the context of GL(n,H), which consists of invertible quaternionic n by n matrices with a real determinant of one. The conversation includes theoretical approaches and mathematical reasoning related to Lie algebras.

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  • One participant inquires about references or methods to find the real Lie algebra of SL(n,H) within GL(n,H).
  • Another participant suggests creating a path in GL(n,H) and differentiating it at the identity to identify the Lie algebra, noting that the condition for the determinant being one implies zero trace for elements in the Lie algebra.
  • A different perspective is introduced, stating that GL(n,H) can be represented as matrices in GL(2n,C) that satisfy a specific conjugation condition involving a matrix J.
  • A mathematical derivation is presented, indicating that the Lie algebra consists of matrices D that satisfy a certain commutation relation involving D and its conjugate transpose.
  • One participant seeks clarification on how the differentiation leads to the characterization of the Lie algebra, prompting a response that emphasizes the definition of the Lie algebra in terms of tangent vectors.
  • Further inquiry is made about the specific conditions for SL(n,H), suggesting that similar differentiation methods apply but must satisfy additional conditions.

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Participants express differing views on the methods and definitions related to finding the Lie algebra, with no consensus reached on the specific approach or characterization of SL(n,H).

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The discussion includes assumptions about the definitions of Lie algebras and the properties of matrices in quaternionic settings, which may not be universally agreed upon. There are also references to specific mathematical representations that may require further clarification.

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Hi all,

Anybody knowes how to find, or at least knows the reference that shows, the real lie algebra of sl(n,H)?
By sl(n,H), I mean the elements in Gl(n,H) [i.e. the invertible quaternionic n by n matrices] whose real determinant is one.

Many Thanks
Asi
 
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Given that the Lie Algebra of a Lie Group is identified with the tangent space of the Lie Group at the identity, I would create an arbitrary path \gamma(t)\colon R\rightarrow GL(n,H) such that \gamma(0)=\tilde1 and then take the derivative of that path at the identity.

I haven't seen a representation of GL(n,H) so, if you find one, post it and we'll see if we can take it's derivative.

ZM

PS: typically the requirement for \hbox{det} g=1 for g\in G means that the element in the Lie Algebra has zero trace.
 
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Actually, GL(n,H) is the set of all matrices A in GL(2n,C) such that AJ=Ja where a is complex conjugate of A and J is 2n by 2n matrice with the rows
(0 -I) and (I 0), I is the n by n identity matrix.

Thanks
 
Differentiate the condition. The lie algebra is the set of matrices D satisfing Id+eD is in GL(n,H) mod e^2.

Thus (id+eD)J=J(Id+eD)^*

Thus eDJ=eJD* or DJ-JD^*=0. So the lie algebra is

gl(n,H):={ D : DJ-JD^*=0}
 
Many thanks, But how did you get the lie algebra is the set of matrices D satisfing Id+eD is in GL(n,H) mod e^2 by differentiation?
 
Because that is the definition of the lie algebra. I just wrote down the conditions necessary to be a tangent vector (and ignored convergence issues - everytihing is defined in terms of polynomials so there is no concern here).
 
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Thanks, how about sl(n,H) ?
 
Do the same thing: it must be satisfy two conditions.
 

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