Finding the velocity of the wind

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The problem involves determining the velocity of the wind affecting an airplane's flight path. The airplane's airspeed and ground speed are given, along with their respective directions.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss using vector addition and the equation Vg = Va + Vw to find the wind velocity. One participant attempts to apply the cosine law to calculate the wind speed and seeks confirmation of their result. Another suggests confirming the answer through component-wise subtraction and converting between polar and rectangular coordinates.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes attempts to verify calculations and explore different methods for solving the problem. Guidance has been offered on using coordinate conversion for vector operations, and one participant reports a calculated wind velocity with a specific directional angle.

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There is mention of a reference for understanding polar and rectangular coordinates, indicating that some participants may be unfamiliar with these concepts.

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Homework Statement



An airplane travels N40∘E at an airspeed of 1000km/h. Measurement on the ground shows that the plane is traveling N45∘E at a speed of 1050 km/h. Calculate the velocity of the wind.

Homework Equations



Vg = Va + Vw

The Attempt at a Solution



so i know we're suppose to use the formula Vg = Va + Vw

we know Vg is 1050km/h N45∘E
and Va is 1000km/h N40∘E
we don't know Vw, so we subtract it to the other side of the equation and we have a subtraction of vectors

I drew my vector diagram, and applied to cos law to get the veloctiy of the wind,

a= sqrt[1050^2 + 1000^2 -2(1000)(1050)cos∘]
and got 102.4 km/h as my wind velocity,

can someone confirm if I'm right? :s
 
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xChee said:

Homework Statement



An airplane travels N40∘E at an airspeed of 1000km/h. Measurement on the ground shows that the plane is traveling N45∘E at a speed of 1050 km/h. Calculate the velocity of the wind.

Homework Equations



Vg = Va + Vw

The Attempt at a Solution



so i know we're suppose to use the formula Vg = Va + Vw

we know Vg is 1050km/h N45∘E
and Va is 1000km/h N40∘E
we don't know Vw, so we subtract it to the other side of the equation and we have a subtraction of vectors

I drew my vector diagram, and applied to cos law to get the veloctiy of the wind,

a= sqrt[1050^2 + 1000^2 -2(1000)(1050)cos∘]
and got 102.4 km/h as my wind velocity,

can someone confirm if I'm right? :s

A good way that you can confirm the answer yourself is to use component-wise subtraction, and convert that back into polar coordinates. Are you familiar with converting back and forth between polar and rectangular coordinates?
 
berkeman said:
A good way that you can confirm the answer yourself is to use component-wise subtraction, and convert that back into polar coordinates. Are you familiar with converting back and forth between polar and rectangular coordinates?

no... :l
 
xChee said:
no... :l

Here is a referenc for you then (partway down this page):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_coordinate_system

Vectors are usually added and subtracted in rectangular coordinates, so a natural way to do your problem is to convert the vectors you are given into their x and y components in rectangular coordinates, do the subtraction, and then convert the answer back into the polar notation of the problem.
 
I worked it out. It is, indeed, 102.425km/h -13° from the positive x axis, or using your notation South 76.69° East.
 

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