Relative Wind Problem (Modern Engineering Mathematics, 5th)

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a cyclist's perception of wind direction while traveling at different speeds. The subject area relates to vector analysis in the context of relative motion and wind velocity.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to establish equations based on the cyclist's speed and the perceived wind direction. Some participants question the correctness of the initial approach and suggest writing additional equations for different speeds.

Discussion Status

The discussion has progressed with participants providing encouragement and confirming the validity of the original poster's approach. A full set of equations has been established, and some calculations have been shared, indicating a productive direction in the exploration of the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of the problem statement and the need to derive the actual wind velocity based on relative motion principles. There is an emphasis on ensuring the equations correspond to both the initial and doubled speeds of the cyclist.

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Homework Statement



A cyclist traveling east at 8 km/hr finds that the wind appears to blow directly from the north. On doubling his speed it appears to blow from the north-east.. Find the actual velocity of the wind.[/B]

Homework Equations



Wind(relative) = Wind(Actual) - Velocity(cyclist)

The Attempt at a Solution



I am completely stuck on this. I do know that there is a (16, 0) vector for the velocity of the cyclist, and a vector of -a(cos(45 deg), sin(45 deg)), which represents the relative, or perceived wind.

Slotting this into the relative wind equation,

Wind(r) = Wind(a) - Vel(cyclist)

-a*cos(45 deg) = Wx - 16
-a*sin(45 deg) = Wy

I'm not sure if this is even on the correct track.

Any trips highly appreciated.
 
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SubZer0 said:
not sure if this is even on the correct track.
It is.
You just need to write the corresponding equations for the 8km/h case.
 
haruspex said:
It is.
You just need to write the corresponding equations for the 8km/h case.

Thanks heaps for the reply, haruspex. I think I just needed that little confidence boost you gave me to help solve the problem.

So now I have the full set of equations:

-a*cos(45 deg) + 16 = Wx
-a*sin(45 deg) = Wy
Wx = 8
Wy = b

Slotting Wx into the first equation;

8 = 16 - a*cos(45 degrees)
a = 11.3137

Slotting a into (2), gives:

Wy = -11.3137*sin(45 degrees)
Wy = -7.999 (approx 8)

Therefore, actual wind velocity has vector of (8, -8). Magnitude, of sqrt(64+64) = 11.31km/hr

Thanks, haruspex!
 
SubZer0 said:
actual wind velocity has vector of (8, -8).
Looks right.
 

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