# Finding two numbers in 9's complement arithmetic

## Homework Statement

I have already converted the following numbers 15,765 and -8,773 into 9's complement form. Which gave me the result:

9's Complement of 15,765 = 99,999-84,234 = 84,234
9's Complement of -8,773 = 99,999-(-8,773) = 108,772

Now that I converted the following 5 digit numbers into 9's Complement, am starting to have problems dealing with finding the sum of the two numbers in 9's complement arithmetic and then converting it back into decimal form. I'm not sure if it has anything to do with Sign and magnitude, but can't seem to find a way around this problem.

No equations.

## The Attempt at a Solution

My solution so far is:
9's Complement of 15,765 = 99,999-84,234 = 84,234
9's Complement of -8,773 = 99,999-(-8,773) = 108,772

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phinds
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## Homework Statement

I have already converted the following numbers 15,765 and -8,773 into 9's complement form. Which gave me the result:

9's Complement of 15,765 = 99,999-84,234 = 84,234
9's Complement of -8,773 = 99,999-(-8,773) = 108,772

Now that I converted the following 5 digit numbers into 9's Complement, am starting to have problems dealing with finding the sum of the two numbers in 9's complement arithmetic and then converting it back into decimal form. I'm not sure if it has anything to do with Sign and magnitude, but can't seem to find a way around this problem.

No equations.

## The Attempt at a Solution

My solution so far is:
9's Complement of 15,765 = 99,999-84,234 = 84,234
9's Complement of -8,773 = 99,999-(-8,773) = 108,772

Why would the 9's complement of +1 be something different than +1 ?

Why would the 9's complement of +1 be something different than +1 ?

What do mean? I'm not clear of what you are trying to point out.

phinds
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What do mean? I'm not clear of what you are trying to point out.

What I'm trying to point out is that the 9's complement of 1 is 1. 9's complement is a method for representing negative numbers as though they were positive numbers NOT a method for messing up positive numbers.

phinds
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Actually, that was a bit brief.

What I really mean is that you seem to misunderstand the both the purpose and the methodology of complementary number systems and I suggest that you read up on them.

WHY would we want to represent a negative number as a positive number ?

HOW do we choose to do it (what's the difference between 9's complement and 10's complement) ?

what are the tradeoffs in implementing a computer with 1's complement vs 2's complement ?

Actually, that was a bit brief.

What I really mean is that you seem to misunderstand the both the purpose and the methodology of complementary number systems and I suggest that you read up on them.

WHY would we want to represent a negative number as a positive number ?

HOW do we choose to do it (what's the difference between 9's complement and 10's complement) ?

what are the tradeoffs in implementing a computer with 1's complement vs 2's complement ?

Sorry, for the late reply. I have just completed the question as well as other questions connected to 9's complement. Can't believe I got stuck on such a simple problem. Turns out a little reading on the topic helped out a lot.

phinds
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Sorry, for the late reply. I have just completed the question as well as other questions connected to 9's complement. Can't believe I got stuck on such a simple problem. Turns out a little reading on the topic helped out a lot.

Glad to hear it.