Finding Two Tangents for a Given Point on a Quadratic Function

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The discussion revolves around finding two tangent lines to the quadratic function f(x) = x² - 6x + 5 at a specific point P(4, -6). Participants are exploring the implications of the problem and the methods to derive the tangent lines.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to differentiate the function and set up equations for the tangents but encounters difficulties in determining the y-intercepts. Another participant suggests using the slope formula in conjunction with the derivative to find the tangent points, leading to a quadratic equation.

Discussion Status

Participants are sharing their thoughts on the problem, with one noting a potential misunderstanding regarding the number of tangents at a point on the curve. There is an acknowledgment of differing approaches, but no consensus has been reached on the correct method or interpretation of the problem.

Contextual Notes

There is a question about the validity of the point P(4, -6) being on the graph of the function, which may affect the existence of tangents. The original poster's method is also being scrutinized for its effectiveness in this context.

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Homework Statement



The teacher proposed a problem today during a math session. He gave the function : f(x) = x2-6x+5 - and a point P(4,-6).

Our mission was to find two tangents for the given point. I thought it was easy, just differentiate the function, and insert the differentiate function for a in : y=a*x + b.

Homework Equations



function : f(x) = x2-6x+5
differentiate : f'(x) = 2x-6
tangent: y= (2x-6)*x + b
tangent eq: -6= (2x-6)*4 + b

The Attempt at a Solution



Given the last tangent equation, my plan was to find the two b's, where the tangents met the y-axis. But I failed.

Any thoughts?
 
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Your system does not work, in my opinion. in my opinion the prof wants two lines that go thru your 4, -6 point and are TANGENT to the parabola.

So I'd use your differential for the slope, AND use another formula for slope as follows:

m = (Y-(-6))/(X-4) which ALSO equals your slope m = 2X-6... but we have two unknowns, so for the Y, put in your original equation (X^2-6X+5) in it's place... wee bit cumberson, but cross multiply, simplify and you end up with a quadritic equation that will give you both X points that ARE tangent to the parabola AND go through your given point.

I think my X values turned out to be 4 + root of 3, and the other was 4 - root of 3.

Good luck
LarryR : )

KayVee said:

Homework Statement



The teacher proposed a problem today during a math session. He gave the function : f(x) = x2-6x+5 - and a point P(4,-6).

Our mission was to find two tangents for the given point. I thought it was easy, just differentiate the function, and insert the differentiate function for a in : y=a*x + b.

Homework Equations



function : f(x) = x2-6x+5
differentiate : f'(x) = 2x-6
tangent: y= (2x-6)*x + b
tangent eq: -6= (2x-6)*4 + b

The Attempt at a Solution



Given the last tangent equation, my plan was to find the two b's, where the tangents met the y-axis. But I failed.

Any thoughts?
 
Yes, that is the same solution our teacher brought. But I just could not figure out, why mine did not work :) I guess it just doesn't work...
 
KayVee said:
Yes, that is the same solution our teacher brought. But I just could not figure out, why mine did not work :) I guess it just doesn't work...
It doesn't work because your function has only one tangent line at any given point on the curve. The point (4, -6) is not on the graph of this function.
 

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