Finding velocity and acceleration in a vector via differentiation

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The discussion focuses on finding the velocity and acceleration of a particle given its position function r(t)=<2cos t, 3t, 2sin t/(t+1)>. The user attempts to derive the velocity vector v(t) and acceleration vector a(t) through differentiation but seeks confirmation on their correctness and simplification. Clarification is provided regarding the interpretation of the term 2sin t/(t+1), emphasizing that it should be understood as 2sin t divided by (t+1). It is noted that the resulting vectors represent functions of time t, and a specific t value is needed to obtain numerical components. The conversation concludes with an agreement on the correct interpretation of the mathematical expressions involved.
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Homework Statement


Find the velocity and acceleration of a particle with the given position function:

r(t)=<2cos t, 3t, 2sin t/t+1>

The Attempt at a Solution



v(t)=r'(t) dt= <-2sin t, 3, (2cos t/t+1) - (2sin t/(t+1)2)>

a(t)=v'(t) dt = <-2cos t, 0, (4sint t/(t+1)3-(2sint t/(t+1)-(4 cos t/(t+1)2>

therefore a(t) = <-2cos t, 0, 2/(t+1)[(2sint t/(t+1)2-sin t-(2 cos t/(t+1)>

First of all, is this right?
Secondly, can this be further simplify? If yes, can someone please show me how.
Lastly, I don't have a clue on how to solve this two vectors to give a single numerical answer. Or have I misunderstood the concepts, the answer show actually be presented as a vector instead of a single numerical answer?

Thanks in advance,
Phil
 
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Philip Wong said:
r(t)=<2cos t, 3t, 2sin t/t+1>

What does 2sin t/t+1 really mean?

\frac {2sin t} {t+1} or

2 sin \frac {t} {t+1} or

\frac {2sin t} {t} +1?
 
You can't get a numerical value, only a vector. You have to have a t value to plug into the functions you derived to get an exact vector with numerical components. The vector r(t) you start with gives position as a function of t, the derivative r'(t) gives the velocity vector as a function of t (velocity at any time t) and r''(t) gives the acceleration vector as a function of t...

If you had a function like r(t)=<2t,t,t> for example, you'd get r'(t)= <2,1,1> since the derivatives are all constant, but if the components of r(t) had non-constant derivatives then you have a non-constant velocity function like in your example.
 
Adkins Jr: I see what you meant now. thanks for your help!
voko: is the first one. sorry I'm not good using latex, I tried to have the equation type out using it. but somehow it didn't work
 
Your solution seems correct. Still, I would like to point out that even if you do not use LaTeX, you could write (sin t)/(t + 1). sin t/t + 1, in the usual convention, means [sin (t/t)] + 1 = [sin 1] + 1.
 
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