Finding Vx, Is, and Power in a Dependent Source

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The discussion revolves around finding the voltage Vx, the current Is, and the power in a circuit with a dependent source. The problem involves applying Kirchhoff's Current Law (KCL) and analyzing the behavior of currents through various resistors.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of currents at different nodes using KCL, with some questioning the accuracy of current directions and values. There are attempts to clarify the contributions of different current sources and resistors in the circuit.

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The conversation is active, with participants providing feedback on each other's calculations and suggesting revisions to current directions. There is an ongoing exploration of values and assumptions, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the importance of maintaining accuracy in intermediate calculations and suggest using more decimal places to avoid significant errors in final results.

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Homework Statement


Find Vx, Is and power on the dependent source.
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The Attempt at a Solution


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Your determination of vx is fine. However, Is is not the only current flowing through the 4 Ω resistor; there's some current coming from the 29 A source, flowing through the 4 Ω + Is combination, then to the components on the right.

You should be in a position to know how much current is entering and leaving that middle bit.
 
I did KCL on node a and got 30 A. Also calculated the current through the 4 Ω resistor -1.5 A.
Then KCL on node b, Is = 31.5 A
 
Draw the directions of the currents through the resistors. Then do KCL again :wink:
 
Oh ok. 28 not 30. Then Is = 26.5.
 
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sevag00 said:
Which resistors?

All of them. You have the voltages across them all.
 
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sevag00 said:
Oh ok. 28 not 30. Then Is = 26.5.

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No, not 26.5 A. I think you've got a current direction wrong. Sketch them on your diagram and pay attention to polarities -- remember, Vx is negative...
 
Here's the new sketch. If I'm not wrong then 29.5 A.
 
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sevag00 said:
Here's the new sketch. If I'm not wrong then 29.5 A.

You're not wrong :smile:
 
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:smile:
 
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Another day, Another KVL-KCL problem.

Find V0 using KVL-KCL and Ohm's law.

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Here's my solution
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You really should place new questions in new threads, if for no other reason than more people are likely to see it.

For this problem it looks like you've got the right ideas, but you're losing way too much accuracy by not keeping enough decimal places in your intermediate results. Keep intermediate values in fraction form or keep several more decimal places ("guard digits").

For example, knowing that I1 is 4 mA and it's flowing through a 4 kΩ resistor you can tell that the potential drop across that resistor should be 16 V exactly. That means the sum of the 42V supply and the drop across the 6 kΩ resistor must add to 16V, so that the drop is 26 V across that resistor. But in your determination of i2 you rounded the result to 4.3 mA, and then when you calculated the potential drop across that resistor you arrived at 25.8 V.

The situation gets worse when you round small values, as the resulting percentage change is more drastic. You determined the current through the 18 kΩ resistor to be 1.63 mA, but it should have ended up as 1.889 mA. So the early roundings of values has landed you with a 14% error so far...
 
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Is it enough if i write three decimal digits?
 
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sevag00 said:
Is it enough if i write three decimal digits?

Three is better, yes. If your calculator has enough memory locations, write three digits but use the stored full-accuracy values for calculations. As always, round final results to the appropriate number of significant figures.
 

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