Finding Zeroes of a Complex Polynomial Inside |z| < 1

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The discussion revolves around finding the number of zeroes of the complex polynomial p(z) = z^5 + 10z - 1 within the unit circle |z| < 1. Participants are examining the application of Rouche's Theorem in this context.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants attempt to apply Rouche's Theorem by comparing the magnitudes of the functions f(z) = z^5 and g(z) = 10z - 1 on the boundary |z| = 1. Questions arise regarding the validity of their inequalities and the implications for the number of zeroes.

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Some participants express uncertainty about their application of Rouche's Theorem, particularly in determining the relationship between |f| and |g|. There is an ongoing exploration of the conditions under which the theorem can be applied correctly, with some guidance offered regarding the correct interpretation of the theorem.

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Participants are working under the constraints of the problem statement and the requirements of Rouche's Theorem, questioning their assumptions about the behavior of the functions involved on the unit circle.

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Homework Statement



Find the number of zeroes of

p(z) = z^5 + 10z - 1

inside |z| < 1

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The Attempt at a Solution



Let f(z) = z^5
g(z) = 10z-1

On |z| = 1:

10|z| - 1< |10z-1| < 10|z| + 1 (is this true...?)

9 < |g(z)| < 11

|f(z)| = 1

So |g| > |f|, so f+g should have the same number of zeroes as f, which is five.

That's incorrect obviously. What am I doing wrong?
 
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Gauss M.D. said:

Homework Statement



Find the number of zeroes of

p(z) = z^5 + 10z - 1

inside |z| < 1

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



Let f(z) = z^5
g(z) = 10z-1

On |z| = 1:

10|z| - 1< |10z-1| < 10|z| + 1 (is this true...?)

Set z = Re^{i\theta}. Then
|10z - 1|^2 = (10Re^{i\theta} - 1)(10Re^{-i\theta} - 1) = 100R^2 + 1 + 20R\cos\theta
so that
<br /> 100R^2 - 20R + 1 \leq |10z - 1|^2 \leq 100R^2 + 20R + 1<br />
or
<br /> (10R - 1)^2 \leq |10z - 1|^2 \leq (10R + 1)^2<br />
so yes, it is true that 10|z| - 1 \leq |10z-1| \leq 10|z| + 1.


9 < |g(z)| < 11

|f(z)| = 1

So |g| > |f|, so f+g should have the same number of zeroes as f, which is five.

That's incorrect obviously. What am I doing wrong?

You haven't applied Rouche's Theorem correctly: if |g| &gt; |f| on |z| = 1 then g and f + g have the same number of zeroes in |z| &lt; 1.
 
But if |g| is between 9 and 11 and f is always 1, then f < g on |z| = 1. What's incorrect?
 
Gauss M.D. said:
But if |g| is between 9 and 11 and f is always 1, then f < g on |z| = 1. What's incorrect?

What's incorrect is your conclusion that f and f +g have the same number of zeroes. Rouche's Theorem is actually telling you that g and f + g have the same number of zeroes.
 
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