First law of this universe

[Anti10188]

While studying certain aspects of physics, chemistry, biology, and psychology, I noticed that everything follows a single "law": energy always moves along the path of least resistance / least effort.

I observe this law in evolution, in every living organism, in every thought and decision, in chemical and physical phenomena.

Am I right? Does this principle already exist? Could it be unified into a single law?
be glad to know what think, smart ones)
Best regards and have a good day!

 

[fresh_42]

This sounds pretty much like the second law of thermodynamics.

 

[Frabjous]

You might enjoy the concept of action.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_(physics)

 

[Anti10188]

you are both right!
Almost all sciences have their own explanations for this.
How can they be combine into one law for everything? Can it?

 

[Baluncore]

Am I right? Does this principle already exist?

Yes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_least_effort
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_principles

 

[berkeman]

While studying certain aspects of physics, chemistry, biology, and psychology, I noticed that everything follows a single "law": energy always moves along the path of least resistance / least effort.

I observe this law in evolution, in every living organism, in every thought and decision, in chemical and physical phenomena.

Am I right? Does this principle already exist? Could it be unified into a single law?
be glad to know what think, smart ones)
Best regards and have a good day!

This thread has been moved from the General Discussion (non-technical) PF forum to the Classical Physics forum. All posts going forward in this thread will now require mainstream references in order to be allowed.

 

[PeroK]

While studying certain aspects of physics, chemistry, biology, and psychology, I noticed that everything follows a single "law": energy always moves along the path of least resistance / least effort.

In General Relativity the relevant law is that a particle naturally follows paths of maximal proper time. Not minimal. That is, effectively, the longest paths through spacetime. Not the shortest.

 

[Anti10188]

In General Relativity the relevant law is that a particle naturally follows paths of maximal proper time. Not minimal. That is, effectively, the longest paths through spacetime. Not the shortest.

it is the same, but worded from other side, i think.
proper time= path of least resistance, more resistance=less proper time.
English is not my native language, some words may not be written correctly, not understood correctly.

 

[A.T.]

In General Relativity the relevant law is that a particle naturally follows paths of maximal proper time. Not minimal.

It can be maximal or minimal, as long it's a path of stationary proper time.

See this old thread:
https://www.physicsforums.com/threa...xtremal-proper-time-means.488751/post-3238118

 

[A.T.]

While studying certain aspects of physics, chemistry, biology, and psychology, I noticed that everything follows a single "law": energy always moves along the path of least resistance / least effort.

Am I right? Does this principle already exist? Could it be unified into a single law?

This was aiready posted:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_principles

But there is also a recent video on this:

 

[russ_watters]

While studying certain aspects of physics, chemistry, biology, and psychology, I noticed that everything follows a single "law": energy always moves along the path of least resistance / least effort.

I observe this law in evolution, in every living organism, in every thought and decision, in chemical and physical phenomena.

Am I right?

It's not exactly right/universal as stated. Though a common saying, it is a bit of a misnomer. There are many things that follow all available paths in inverse proportion to the resistance along the path. It's a very important distinction when dealing with electricity and fluid flow....and the many other phenomena that behave similarly (crowds, traffic, etc).

 

[PeroK]

it is the same, but worded from other side, i think.
proper time= path of least resistance, more resistance=less proper time.
English is not my native language, some words may not be written correctly, not understood correctly.

Let's take Special Relativity. Suppose you remain at rest in some inertial frame and some time passes on your watch. There is no way anyone else can record more time during that interval if they start and end their journey where you are. Remaining at rest records the maximal proper time.

 

[Anti10188]

Apparently the word "path" is not perceived quite as I imagine it in this case, I will rephrase the main idea
"information/energy moves through time along the path of least resistance/least loss"

 

[A.T.]

I will rephrase the main idea ...

Instead of rephrasing, just look at the linked above formalisations of that idea, which is not new.

 

[weirdoguy]

What does "energy moves through time" even mean? And why energy, and not some other physical quantity? Why not momentum?

 

[Anti10188]

What does "energy moves through time" even mean?

Special theory of relativity="Energy and information are limited by the speed of light (E=mc²)"
Thats a energy transfer speed, no? c²= have time in it BTW (energy need some time to move from A to B)
Without time, energy will not move from A to B, even if you don't factor it into the equations.

if we dig a bit deeper in to (E=mc²). Everything is energy and matter with some speed, no?
Want to remind that I started writing this because I noticed the similarity of various laws and theories in various sciences. Will start to collect a list of all theories and laws that seem to fit my description. will try to post it tomorrow.

 

[jbriggs444]

Special theory of relativity="Energy and information are limited by the speed of light (E=mc²)"

The speed of light limitation on information transfer speed is not implied by $E=mc^2$.

Thats a energy transfer speed, no? c²= have time in it

No, the units for $c^2$ have no relevance.

In the telecommunications world, we know very well that information transfer has latency limited by speed of light considerations (among other things).

We also know about workarounds to improve bandwidth in spite of this limitation. Techniques for this are widespread in the telecom and computing world. Instruction pre-fetch, branch prediction, caching, pipelining, parallel busses, multiple cores, buffering, sliding windows, SACKs. i.e. parallel processing in its various guises. Then too, one can decrease circuit sizes and increase clock speeds and carrier frequencies.

BTW (energy need some time to move from A to B)
Without time, energy will not move from A to B, even if you don't factor it into the equations.

The simple observation that without time there is no change over time is pointless.

if we dig a bit deeper in to (E=mc²). Everything is energy and matter with some speed, no?

Perhaps you should step back and learn what energy is. And maybe a bit more about special relativity than one famous equation [that conflicts with the modern definition of mass].

 

[Anti10188]

No, the units for c2 have no relevance.

Why do meters per second not matter?

Perhaps you should step back and learn what energy is.

I will definitely do so, thank you very much.

 

[Ibix]

Why do meters per second not matter?

You can choose different unit systems where $c$ is dimensionless. If it's a personal choice it can't be physically significant.

 

[Anti10188]

You can choose different unit systems where $c$ is dimensionless. If it's a personal choice it can't be physically significant.

"In some physical theories and systems of units, the speed of light (c) is considered a dimensionless quantity, that is, its numerical value is taken as 1. This is done to simplify the equations and more naturally describe the physical laws."

"This is done to simplify the equations and more naturally describe the physical laws."
It seems to me that time is still there, even if not used in calculations or formulas.

 

[Ibix]

It seems to me that time is still there, even if not used in calculations.

I would say that in an equation like $E=mc^2$, that is very much a matter of interpretation.

 

[jbriggs444]

Why do meters per second not matter?

In addition to being irrelevant, $c^2$ does not have units of meters per second.

 

[Herman Trivilino]

if we dig a bit deeper in to (E=mc²). Everything is energy and matter with some speed, no?

No. The $m$ stands for mass, not matter. And ironically the whole point of the relation is that mass is not a measure of the quantity of matter.

You express a misunderstanding of the concept of energy. Energy is a property, so things with energy can move, but energy itself cannot.

 

[Sagittarius A-Star]

This was aiready posted:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_principles

But there is also a recent video on this:

Although this forum is about classical physics, the generalization of the principle of stationary action to quantum physics may also interest the OP: the path integral method of Feynman.

Source:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Path_integral_formulation#Feynman's_interpretation

 

[Anti10188]

This is a basic list, I will add to it over time.
"Information/energy travel through time along the path of lest loss/resistance" - what i see
"Take a second of any object, during that second, the Information/energy was distributed along the path lest loss/resistance" - basick example (2 atoms minimuм)

1. Principle of Least Action (Maupertuis-Lagrange-Hamilton Principle)
2. Second Law of Thermodynamics (Principle of Entropy Increase)
3. Fermat's Principle (in optics)
4. Percolation Theory (in statistical physics and network theory)
5. Ohm's Law (in electrical engineering)
6. Optimal Transport Theory (Monge-Kantorovich)
7. Le Chatelier–Braun Principle (in chemistry and thermodynamics)
8. Quantum Field Theory (Feynman Path Integrals)
9. Information Theory (Minimum Description Length Principle)
10. General Relativity (Geodesic Lines)
11. Graph Theory (Shortest Path)
12. Hydrodynamics (Fluid Flow)
13. Entropy and the Second Law of Thermodynamics
14. Information Theory (Shannon)
15. Biological Principle of Energy Economy
16. Most all psychology of behavior

is it a Quantum Field Theory (Feynman Path Integrals)?

Big thanks to all and Best Regards!

 

[Sagittarius A-Star]

This is a basic list, I will add to it over time.
"Information/energy travel through time along the path of lest loss/resistance" - what i see
"Take a second of any object, during that second, the Information/energy was distributed along the path lest loss/resistance" - basick example (2 atoms minimuм)

1. Principle of Least Action (Maupertuis-Lagrange-Hamilton Principle)
2. Second Law of Thermodynamics (Principle of Entropy Increase)
3. Fermat's Principle (in optics)
4. Percolation Theory (in statistical physics and network theory)
5. Ohm's Law (in electrical engineering)
6. Optimal Transport Theory (Monge-Kantorovich)
7. Le Chatelier–Braun Principle (in chemistry and thermodynamics)
8. Quantum Field Theory (Feynman Path Integrals)
9. Information Theory (Minimum Description Length Principle)
10. General Relativity (Geodesic Lines)
11. Graph Theory (Shortest Path)
12. Hydrodynamics (Fluid Flow)
13. Entropy and the Second Law of Thermodynamics
14. Information Theory (Shannon)
15. Biological Principle of Energy Economy
16. Most all psychology of behavior

is it a Quantum Field Theory (Feynman Path Integrals)?

Big thanks to all and Best Regards!

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