First order differential equation transforms

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The discussion revolves around finding the general solution for a system of first-order differential equations involving functions x(t) and y(t). The equations presented include x' = y and y' = -x, leading to a characteristic equation that suggests a sinusoidal solution for x(t). Participants are exploring how to derive y(t) based on the established relationship with x(t).

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between x(t) and y(t) as defined by the differential equations. There is an exploration of how to derive y(t) from the known x(t) solutions, with some questioning the correctness of the provided solutions and assumptions.

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The discussion is active, with participants offering insights into the relationships between the variables and questioning the accuracy of certain expressions for y(t). There is no explicit consensus on the correct form of y(t), and some participants express uncertainty about the problem setup.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information available and the methods they can use. There is a noted confusion regarding the correct interpretation of the equations and the expected forms of the solutions.

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I am to find a general solution of the system of problems below. I have done so for x(t) but am unsure how to find it for y(t)...
x'=y, y'=-x
x''=y=-x
x''+x=0
Characteristic eq: r^2 + 1= 0, r = +/- i
x(t) = A cos(t) + B sin(t)
How do I go about calculating y(t), which th book shows as being y(t)=B cos(t)+Asin(t)

Similarly, I calculated x(t)=A cos (2t) + B sin(2t), but am unsure how to get the book's version of y(t)=4B cos 2t - 4A sin(2t)
 
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you have x'=y, don't you? Could that help?
 
I apologize, I looked at y(t) wrong; y(t) is actually B cos(t)-A sin(t).
 
Yes, x(t)= Acos(t)+ Bsin(t). Since the first equation is x'= y, as Char. Limit said, that leads to y= x'= -A sin(t)+ B cos(t) which is what you give in your second post.

As for showing it is the same as y(t)=4B cos 2t - 4A sin(2t), you can't- it simply is not true. Are you sure you are not looking at the wrong problem?
 

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