First Order Differential Equation

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The discussion revolves around finding general solutions to first-order differential equations, specifically focusing on the equations dy/dx = 2x(y^2 + 1) and x(dy/dx) = √(4 - y^2). Participants are examining their attempts to integrate and solve these equations while comparing their results with textbook solutions.

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  • Participants describe their attempts to separate variables and integrate. There is a discussion about the integration of 1/(1+y^2) and its relation to the arctangent function. Some participants express confusion regarding the correct form of the solution and question their own reasoning.

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Several participants have offered corrections and clarifications regarding the integration steps and the resulting expressions. There is an acknowledgment of errors in previous attempts, and some participants are exploring the implications of constants of integration in their solutions.

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Participants note the importance of the constant of integration in their solutions and the need to verify that their derived solutions satisfy the original differential equations. There is also mention of specific initial conditions related to the second differential equation discussed.

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Homework Statement


Find the general solution to the following differential equation.

dy/dx = 2x( (y^2) + 1)


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The Attempt at a Solution



I got all x terms on one side and all y terms on the otherside

2x dx = 1/( (y^2) + 1`)dy

integrate

x^2 + c = tan(y)

y = tan-inverse(x^2 + c)

Can somebody tell me if this is right ?

my book says the solution is y = tan(x^2 + c)
 
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It's not right. What is
[tex]\int \frac{dy}{1+y^2}[/tex]?
 
tan-inverse(1/y)

sorry I see where I went wrong now

it should have been x^2 + c = tan-inverse(y)
 
Woolyabyss said:
tan-inverse(1/y)

sorry I see where I went wrong now

it should have been x^2 + c = tan-inverse(y)

∫dy/(1+y2) = tan-1y

So,tan-1y = x2 + c

or , y = tan(x2 + c)
 
Tanya Sharma said:
∫dy/(1+y2) = tan-1y

So,tan-1y = x2 + c

or , y = tan(x2 + c)

Could you help me with another one?

Given the differential equation

x(dy/dx) = √(4 - y^2) , find the general solution given that y = 0 when x = 1

I got all the x terms to one side and all of the y terms to the opposite side.

1/√(4 - y^2) dy = 1/x dx

integrating gives

sin-inverse(y/2) = lnx

using the limits and we get

sin-inverse(y/2) = lnx

y/2 = sin(lnx)

y = 2sin(lnx)

my book says the solution is y = sin(lnx)
 
Woolyabyss said:
Could you help me with another one?

Given the differential equation

x(dy/dx) = √(4 - y^2) , find the general solution given that y = 0 when x = 1

I got all the x terms to one side and all of the y terms to the opposite side.

1/√(4 - y^2) dy = 1/x dx

integrating gives

sin-inverse(y/2) = lnx

using the limits and we get

sin-inverse(y/2) = lnx

y/2 = sin(lnx)

y = 2sin(lnx)

my book says the solution is y = sin(lnx)

y=2sin(lnx) looks to be the correct answer.You can verify that by putting the solution in the original equation and checking whether it satisfies the eq.

Note : Even though you came up with the correct answer ,please do not ignore the constant of integration C while integrating.
 

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