First order partial wave eqaution, one boundary and one initial condit

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The discussion revolves around solving a first-order partial differential equation involving boundary and initial conditions. The equation is given as \(\frac{\partial{w}}{\partial{t}} + c \frac{\partial{w}}{\partial{x}} = 0\) for \(x > 0\) and \(t > 0\), with initial condition \(w(x,0) = f(x)\) and boundary condition \(w(0,t) = h(t)\).

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss how to approach solving the equation with both conditions, noting that solutions for each condition separately yield different forms. There is uncertainty about how to combine these solutions and the implications of the conditions on the solution's validity.

Discussion Status

Some participants have proposed a general solution form and explored how applying initial conditions affects the function \(g\). There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of the conditions on the solution's domain, particularly regarding the first quadrant of the \(x,t\) plane.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the constraints of the problem, specifically the requirement for \(x > 0\) and \(t > 0\), and how these affect the validity of the proposed solutions. There is also a recognition of the geometric interpretation of the solution in relation to the initial and boundary conditions.

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Homework Statement

Solve

[tex]\frac{\partial{w}}{\partial{t}} + c \frac{\partial{w}}{\partial{x}} =0 \hspace{3 mm} (c>0)[/tex]
for x>0 and t>0 if

[tex]w(x,0) = f(x)[/tex]
[tex]w(0,t) = h(t)[/tex]

Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution


I know how to solve for the conditions separately and that would give
[tex]w(x,t) = f(x-ct)[/tex] and
[tex]w(x,t) = h(t-\frac{1}{c}x)[/tex]

but how do you solve it for both? And when does x>0 or t>0 matter?
 
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barefeet said:

Homework Statement




Solve

[tex]\frac{\partial{w}}{\partial{t}} + c \frac{\partial{w}}{\partial{x}} =0 \hspace{3 mm} (c>0)[/tex]



for x>0 and t>0 if

[tex]w(x,0) = f(x)[/tex]
[tex]w(0,t) = h(t)[/tex]


Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution


I know how to solve for the conditions separately and that would give
[tex]w(x,t) = f(x-ct)[/tex] and
[tex]w(x,t) = h(t-\frac{1}{c}x)[/tex]

but how do you solve it for both? And when does x>0 or t>0 matter?

Let's not call your solution ##w(x,t) = f(x-ct)## because you are using ##f## in the initial condition. So begin by stating your general solution is ##w(x,t) = g(x-ct)## for arbitrary, but as yet unknown, ##g##. Now what happens when you apply your first initial condition to that. Does it tell you what ##g## must be? Then continue...
 
Now I am confused, if I start out with [tex]g(x-ct)[/tex] then applying the first initial condition [tex]w(x,0) = f(x) =g(x-0)=g(x)[/tex]. So [tex]g(x-ct)[/tex] must be [tex]f(x-ct)[/tex], right?
 
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I might have overlooked the fact that I have to give a solution for : [itex]x>0[/itex] and [itex]t>0[/itex]
So [itex]g(x-ct)=f(x-ct)[/itex] is only valid for [itex]x-ct>0[/itex] and [itex]g(t-\frac{1}{c}x)=h(t-\frac{1}{c}x )[/itex] is only valid for [itex]t-\frac{1}{c}x>0[/itex]

I think I have the right visual picture in my head now. So, in the [itex]x,t[/itex] plane my solution only considers the first quadrant of the plane.

And the triangle made by the lines [itex]x=ct[/itex], the [itex]x[/itex]-axis and the line [itex]x=\infty[/itex] is defined by the initial condition at the positive [itex]x[/itex]-axis.
And the triangle made by the lines [itex]x=ct[/itex], the [itex]t[/itex]-axis and the line [itex]t=\infty[/itex] is given by the boundary condition at the positive [itex]t[/itex]-axis.

So the solution would be:
[tex]w(x,t) = f(x-ct) \hspace{3 mm} (x>ct)[/tex]
[tex]w(x,t) = h(t-\frac{1}{c}x) \hspace{3 mm} (x<ct)[/tex]
This would be ok right?
 
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Yes, I think that does it.

Disclaimer: I'm not a PDE expert, so if any such experts disagree, speak up now...:rolleyes:
 
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