First Year Calculus Course Mathematical Induction Problem

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The discussion revolves around proving the inequality (2n)! < (2^(2n))*(n!)^2 using mathematical induction for n=2,3,4.... The original poster initiates the conversation by expressing confusion about transitioning from the assumption for n=k to n=k+1.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the base case for n=2 and the assumption for n=k. There are attempts to manipulate the inequality by multiplying both sides and exploring the implications of moving from k to k+1. Questions arise about the factors involved in the transition and the validity of certain steps taken.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the relationships between the factors A and B derived from the factorial expressions. There is an ongoing exploration of whether these factors satisfy the inequality, with some participants acknowledging mistakes and refining their reasoning. The discussion remains active with no explicit consensus reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of mathematical induction and are focused on proving the inequality without providing complete solutions. There is an emphasis on understanding the relationships between terms rather than simply arriving at a conclusion.

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Prove by mathematical induction:

(2n)! < (2^(2n))*(n!)^2 , for all n=2,3,4...

I know that to start you must prove that it is true for n=2,

(2*2)! = 24 < 64 = (2^4)(2!)^2

Then you assume that n=k and show tha n=k implies that n=(k+1)

(2k)! < (2^(2k))*(k!)^2

... At this point I am completely lost, I don't know where to go from here to turn it into (k+1)
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
 
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MP14 said:
Prove by mathematical induction:

(2n)! < (2^(2n))*(n!)^2 , for all n=2,3,4...

I know that to start you must prove that it is true for n=2,

(2*2)! = 24 < 64 = (2^4)(2!)^2

Then you assume that n=k and show tha n=k implies that n=(k+1)

(2k)! < (2^(2k))*(k!)^2

... At this point I am completely lost, I don't know where to go from here to turn it into (k+1)
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!

But what factor does each side increase when you go from k to k+1?
 
I'm not too sure... I tried multiplying both sides by 4, because if you do that you would end up getting:

4(2k)! < 4(2^(2k))*(k!)^2
4(2k)! < (2^2)*(2^(2k))*(k!)^2
4(2k)! < (2^(2k+2))*(k!)^2
4(2k)! < (2^(2(k+1)))*(k!)^2

But then that still leaves me with (2k) on the left side and (k) on the right.
Any suggestions? Am I on the right track?
 
MP14 said:
I'm not too sure... I tried multiplying both sides by 4, because if you do that you would end up getting:

4(2k)! < 4(2^(2k))*(k!)^2
4(2k)! < (2^2)*(2^(2k))*(k!)^2
4(2k)! < (2^(2k+2))*(k!)^2
4(2k)! < (2^(2(k+1)))*(k!)^2

But then that still leaves me with (2k) on the left side and (k) on the right.
Any suggestions? Am I on the right track?

It might be easier to see another way (2(k+1))!=A*(2k)! What's A? And 2^(2(k+1))*(k+1)!^2=B*(2^k*k!^2). What's B?
 
Solving for A I get A = 1 + 1/k, and for B I get B = 4(k+1)^2.
I don't think that we can multiply the inequality by k, so is there another way to approach this?
 
MP14 said:
Solving for A I get A = 1 + 1/k, and for B I get B = 4(k+1)^2.
I don't think that we can multiply the inequality by k, so is there another way to approach this?

B is right. A isn't. (2(k+1))!/(2k)!=(2k+2)(2k+1), isn't it? Just bear with me. The whole point of this exercise is which is larger, A or B?
 
Yes my mistake, A = (2k+2)(2k+1) = (4k^2 + 6k + 2) and B = (4k^2 + 8k + 4), so B is larger.
 
MP14 said:
Yes my mistake, A = (2k+2)(2k+1) = (4k^2 + 6k + 2) and B = (4k^2 + 8k + 4), so B is larger.
Yes it is.

Can you prove it ?
 
Yes! Thank you!

(2(k+1))! = (2k+2)!
= (2k+2)(2k+1)!
= (2k+2)(2k+1)(2k)!
= (4k^2 + 6k + 2)(2k)!
< (4k^2 + 8k + 4)(2k)! < (4k^2 + 8k + 4)(2^(2k))(k!)^2 (based on assumption)
and the rest is algebra!
Thanks again!
 
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MP14 said:
Yes! Thank you!

(2(k+1))! = (2k+2)!
= (2k+2)(2k+1)!
= (2k+2)(2k+1)(2k)!
= (4k^2 + 6k + 2)(2k)!
< (4k^2 + 8k + 4)(2k)! < (4k^2 + 8k + 4)(2^(2k))(k!)^2 (based on assumption)
and the rest is algebra!
Thanks again!

Sure. That's what I was getting at.
 

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