Fitting a (Very) Large Random Number To A Formula

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the challenge of creating a formula that can generate a specific, very large random number. Participants explore the feasibility of finding such a formula, the nature of infinite sequences, and the implications of searching for a number within an infinite set.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Debate/contested, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to find an exact formula for a specific large random number, indicating a lack of interest in approximation.
  • Another participant questions the feasibility of discovering how the number was created, suggesting that different algorithms can generate ordered sets of numbers.
  • Some participants propose that tools like Matlab or Wolfram Mathematica might help find a fit for the data if it follows a certain form.
  • Concerns are raised about the implications of searching for a number within an infinite set, questioning the likelihood of finding it in a finite amount of time.
  • Clarifications are made regarding terminology, distinguishing between infinite sets of numbers and sequences defined recursively.
  • There is mention of the difficulty in predicting future values of equations that generate infinite sequences, with some examples provided for clarification.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the feasibility of finding an exact formula for the large number or the implications of searching within infinite sets. Multiple competing views remain regarding the nature of infinite sequences and the challenges involved in this pursuit.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include unclear definitions of terms such as "infinite number" and "infinite generated number," as well as unresolved questions about the existence of specific sets within infinite sequences.

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It has been a very long time since I have done any calc or hard math, I hope this question is in the right place.

I have a HUGE number, that is random and big. What do I need to study/look at to create a formula that will generate just it?
 
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I didnt understand your question.Lets suppose we have a number 4736282828262937372836388363728190.
What do you want ?
Make equations and find this number ?
 
what kind of data? probably there is no a general way to discover how it was created! in my opinion it is impossible since exist ordered sets of numbers that can be generated with different algorithms. But maybe a program like Matlab or Wolfram Mathematica can find something called a fit if the data is in a certain form.
 
Thanks GiuseppeR7.

That is what I was looking for to start. I do not want to approximate though, I have fit curves before, but I need and equation that would give the EXACT answer.

To answer some of the others questions, I do not care how it was created and no patterns exist in the number.

I am also talking about numbers that could be infinite or part of an infinite sequence.

Honestly, I have this massive number, and I want to search inside an infinite generated number (set?) and find that number inside of it. Now I know that there is nothing to guarantee that my set even exists in this infinite number. If I remember correctly, is it not incredibly difficult to find future values of equations that generate infinite numbers...I thought though some examples exist.
 
WebDawg said:
Honestly, I have this massive number, and I want to search inside an infinite generated number (set?) and find that number inside of it.
If you have an infinite set of numbers, what makes you think you will find the number you're looking for in a finite amount of time?
WebDawg said:
Now I know that there is nothing to guarantee that my set even exists in this infinite number.
This doesn't make sense. "Infinite number" - are you talking about a set with an infinite number of elements (numbers) in it?
WebDawg said:
If I remember correctly, is it not incredibly difficult to find future values of equations that generate infinite numbers...
Your terminology is off here. There are sequences (a sequence is a type of function) that are defined recursively, but they don't generate "infinite numbers."

As an example:
a0 = 1
an = an - 1 + 1, for n ≥ 1

This sequence is {1, 2, 3, 4, ...}. IOW, all of the positive integers.
WebDawg said:
I thought though some examples exist.
 

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