Fixing the Constants of Equations to Unity

In summary, the conversation discussed the concept of defining constants in physics equations and the implications of setting them to 1. It was mentioned that in natural units, the constants c and hbar are already set to 1, and in Gaussian units, other constants can be set to 1 as well. However, this would mean that everyday measurements of distance and mass would be extremely small. There was also a mention of the dimensionless constant alpha, which is important in high energy theory. It was concluded that while it is possible to set constants to 1, it may not always be practical to do so in everyday measurements.
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So I was revising elementary classical physics and Newton's equations of motion.

When you apply a force on an object in free space, far from gravitational fields, you find that the object accelerates. By conducting experiments where you vary the force or the mass and look at the acceleration, you find that

Force, F α Mass, m * Acceleration, a
Introduction the constant k of the equation,
F = kma

Now, accelration is well-defined if you know how to define length (through a unit metre stick) and time (through an atomic clock - cesium i believe is used to standardize it).
You can standardize a unit mass as well. Any other mass is equal to the unit mass if it balances out on a see-saw type of balance.

Now, we define 'k' as the force required to accelerate a mass of 1 kg by 1m/s^2
If we choose the units of force such that this particular quantity of force is one unit, the k=1.

My question is wouldn't we just be better off by setting the constant in all the relations in physics to be 1 in a similar manner.

My initial guess is that we are allowed to do this only once. Whenever we have any equation even remotely relating to a force, we can't set the constant equal to one. If we attempted to do so, we would first have to modify our unit of force, by making k≠1.

I would love to hear from the members of the Forum regarding your views on this.
 
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hi ian! :smile:
ian_dsouza said:
My question is wouldn't we just be better off by setting the constant in all the relations in physics to be 1 in a similar manner.

we can for example put c = G =1 (cosmologists often do this, to make the equations easier)

unfortunately, that would mean that everyday distances and masses (such as your height
and weight) would be measured in billionths of light-seconds and light-weights :wink:

similarly, we ought really to define µo (permeablility of the vacuum) to be 1 (or 4π, for technical reasons), but that would mean everyday current or voltage would be measured in millions of units, so we use 4π*10-7 instead
 
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In gaussian units, used by most physicists in doing their own research,
E=q/r^2, and F/L=2II'/(c^2 d).
In natural units, used by most high energy theorists, c and hbar are 1.
The most important constant is alpha=e^2=1/137, and is dimensionless.
 
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ian_dsouza said:
My initial guess is that we are allowed to do this only once. Whenever we have any equation even remotely relating to a force, we can't set the constant equal to one. If we attempted to do so, we would first have to modify our unit of force, by making k≠1.
You are definitely allowed to do this. This is the basis behind Gaussian units or Lorentz Heaviside units.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorent...ns_and_comparison_with_other_systems_of_units
 
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I would caution against arbitrarily setting constants in equations to unity. While it may seem simpler and more convenient, it could potentially lead to major errors in our calculations and understanding of the physical world.

Firstly, constants in equations are not arbitrary. They are determined through experimental data and represent fundamental physical quantities. Changing them to unity without proper justification could lead to incorrect results.

Secondly, setting all constants to unity would limit our ability to make accurate predictions and perform precise measurements. Different physical phenomena have different levels of complexity and require different constants to accurately describe them. By setting all constants to unity, we would be oversimplifying these phenomena and potentially missing important details.

Furthermore, constants play a crucial role in connecting different branches of physics. For example, the gravitational constant G is used in equations describing both classical mechanics and general relativity. If we were to set it to unity, we would lose the connection between these two theories and hinder our understanding of the universe.

In addition, constants provide a way to compare and validate theories. By keeping them as they are, we can test the validity of a theory by comparing its predicted value for a constant with the experimentally determined value. If we were to set all constants to unity, this important aspect of scientific inquiry would be lost.

In conclusion, while setting constants to unity may seem like a convenient solution, it is not a scientifically sound approach. It is important to respect the fundamental nature of constants and use them as they are determined through experimental data. This allows for accurate predictions, precise measurements, and a deeper understanding of the physical world.
 

1. What does it mean to fix the constants of equations to unity?

Fixing the constants of equations to unity means setting the values of the constants in an equation to 1. This is done to simplify the equation and make it easier to analyze and solve.

2. Why would one want to fix the constants of equations to unity?

Fixing the constants to unity can make the equation more manageable and easier to understand. It can also help to identify patterns and relationships between different variables in the equation.

3. How is fixing the constants of equations to unity different from solving the equation?

Fixing the constants to unity is a simplification technique to make the equation easier to work with. Solving the equation involves finding a specific value for the variables in the equation that satisfies the equation.

4. Can all equations have their constants fixed to unity?

No, not all equations can have their constants fixed to unity. Some equations require certain values for the constants in order for them to make sense and be solvable. Fixing the constants to unity is only applicable in certain situations.

5. How does fixing the constants of equations to unity affect the overall solution of the equation?

Fixing the constants to unity does not change the overall solution of the equation. It simply simplifies the equation and makes it easier to work with. The solution to the equation will remain the same whether the constants are fixed to unity or not.

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