Flow Rate and PSI of water exiting a pipe

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The discussion revolves around determining the flow rate and pressure (PSI) of water exiting a pipe, based on a provided diagram and certain assumptions about the system. The subject area includes fluid dynamics, specifically concepts related to flow rate, pressure, and the application of Bernoulli's principle.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the use of the continuity equation to find flow rate and question how pressure is transmitted through fluids. There is uncertainty about the velocity of the water and how it relates to the movement of a piston. Some participants express confusion regarding the pressure at the exit of the pipe, particularly in relation to the narrowing of the pipe and the force applied to the piston.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, raising questions about the relationship between the pressure exerted by the piston and the pressure of the water exiting the pipe. Some guidance has been offered regarding Bernoulli's principle, but there is no explicit consensus on the flow rate or pressure calculations.

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There are assumptions being made, such as ignoring friction losses and the weight of the water and piston. The discussion also highlights the need for additional information, such as the velocity of the water and the specific conditions of the system.

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I am trying to figure out the flow rate (gallons per minute) and PSI of the water just as it exits the top of the pipe. Is it possible to figure out these out given the information in the diagram?
 

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If you are ignoring the friction losses, you can use the continuity equation Q=Av= constant to get the flow rate Q and the fact that pressure is transmitted equally through a fluid to get the psi at the end.
 
I don't know the velocity. The piston will only move up as quickly as the water can exit the top. I can't just assign an arbitrary velocity to the piston, can I?


As for the PSI of the water coming out the top of the pipe... I must admit I have a bit of confusion. 2000 lbs. is being applied to a piston with an area of roughly 452.16 square inches... which I guess means the piston is applying 4.42 PSI. But when the pipe narrows at the top to 1 square inch... does that mean the water comes out at 4.42 PSI, or does that mean the water comes out at 2000 PSI?

(yes, I am ignoring the weight of the water and the weight of the piston itself, but I could deduct it and still have the same question with a force a bit lower than 2000 lbs being applied to the water).
 
At the top the water would come out at 4.42 psi.

I am not sure given the information you can find the flow rate at the top.
 
I think you'll want to take a look at Bernoulli's principle.

You can relate the (unknown) speed of the piston to the (unknown) speed of the water exiting at the top via the areas of the piston and pipe opening. Bernoulli's relationship will provide a relationship between the flow rates, heights, and pressures.
 

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