Flow rate loss due to pressure loss

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The discussion centers on calculating flow rate loss due to a pressure drop of 30 psi every 20 seconds in an 8-inch diameter, 500-foot long pipe. Participants emphasize the need for additional information regarding the application and system configuration to accurately diagnose the issue. Potential causes of pressure loss include faulty valves, slipping couplings, pump seal issues, or inadequate suction side conditions leading to a vacuum. Understanding these factors is crucial for troubleshooting and optimizing the pump system.

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  • Understanding of fluid dynamics principles
  • Familiarity with pump system components and configurations
  • Knowledge of pressure loss calculations in piping systems
  • Experience with diagnosing mechanical failures in pumps
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  • Research pressure loss calculations in piping systems using the Darcy-Weisbach equation
  • Learn about pump system diagnostics and common failure modes
  • Explore the impact of NPSH (Net Positive Suction Head) on pump performance
  • Investigate the role of control loops in maintaining system pressure
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Engineers, pump system designers, and maintenance technicians seeking to understand and resolve pressure loss issues in fluid transport systems.

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If I'm losing 30 psi every 20 seconds at a pump, how many gallons am I losing in that time frame? I don't really have a lot of information to go on, which is frustrating. I know the diameter of the pipe is 8" and there's a total length of 500 feet of the pipe. With this info I'm having trouble finding a good starting point on figuring this out. I do t know if it's being losses over a distance or just at a point. Can someone point me in the right direction? Feels like I'm missing something obvious.
 
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crawdad328 said:
I don't really have a lot of information to go on, which is frustrating.

Yep, as it is it's unclear what is even going on; you need to explain the situation properly. Diagrams help.
 
You are going to have to explain more about what the application is and what your end goal is? Pressure loss over time means you are losing stored energy somewhere, what is the pipe transferring water from/to?
 
Yea, rarely in a pump system do you have to deal with delta-psi / min, or any variation thereof. Certainly systems change in their overall pressure (and therefore flow rates, or vice versa) but a progressive drop in pressure, where there wasn't one before, indicates that something is amiss with your system. What that could be is anyone's guess at this point. Could be a faulty valve (perhaps with a mis-programmed or buggy control loop?) somewhere, could be a slipping coupling in the pump, could be issues with pump seals and internals, could be an issue with the suction side (if it's a tank it could be that the air spaces are not replenishing quick enough and you are drawing a vacuum, which is dropping your NPSHa. Lots of stuff.
 

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