Fluid flow/pressure in a pipe going uphill

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The discussion revolves around fluid dynamics, specifically the pressure differences in a pipe with varying elevations and cross-sectional areas. Participants are tasked with ranking the pressures at three points in the pipe: A (higher elevation), B, and C (wider section at the same height as B).

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants attempt to rank the pressures at points A, B, and C based on their understanding of fluid dynamics and Bernoulli's equation. Questions are raised about the validity of the reasoning, particularly regarding the effects of elevation and cross-sectional area on pressure. Some participants inquire about the implications of static versus flowing water.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants exploring different interpretations of pressure relationships in the context of fluid flow. Some guidance has been offered regarding the application of Bernoulli's equation, and there is an ongoing examination of the assumptions made about pressure at various points.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the implications of both flowing and static conditions of water in the pipe, as well as the relevance of Pascal's law in their reasoning. There is a focus on the need for clarity regarding the relationships between pressures at different points in the system.

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Homework Statement


Water is flowing along a pipe. Points B and C in the pipe are at the same height but point A is at a higher elevation.The pipe has the same cross-sectional area at points A and B but is wider at point C. Rank in order from largest to smallest, the pressures at the three points A, B, C. Briefly explain your reasoning.

Homework Equations


Bernoulli''s equation?

The Attempt at a Solution


Largest to smallest in order: A, B, C

Pressure highest at A because A is uphill, then B because it has a smaller cross sectional area than C, and then C because greatest cross sectional area.

But I'm not sure if pressure is higher at C because it's pushing fluid uphill?
 
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If the water were not flowing what would your answer be?
Are you familiar with Pascals law?
 
j3dwards said:

Homework Statement


Water is flowing along a pipe. Points B and C in the pipe are at the same height but point A is at a higher elevation.The pipe has the same cross-sectional area at points A and B but is wider at point C. Rank in order from largest to smallest, the pressures at the three points A, B, C. Briefly explain your reasoning.

Homework Equations


Bernoulli''s equation?

The Attempt at a Solution


Largest to smallest in order: A, B, C

Pressure highest at A because A is uphill, then B because it has a smaller cross sectional area than C, and then C because greatest cross sectional area.

But I'm not sure if pressure is higher at C because it's pushing fluid uphill?

Is the pressure at A higher because it's uphill? What's the pressure at B relative to the pressure at A? Did you apply Bernoulli's equation to see if your reasoning is valid?
 
SteamKing said:
Is the pressure at A higher because it's uphill? What's the pressure at B relative to the pressure at A? Did you apply Bernoulli's equation to see if your reasoning is valid?

PA + ρgyA + 0.5ρvA2 = PB + ρgyB + 0.5ρvB2

So yA > yB and I think the velocities are the same? So does that make the pressure higher at B?
 
correct on both counts.
 
billy_joule said:
If the water were not flowing what would your answer be?
Are you familiar with Pascals law?

PB = PA + ρgh

Again making pressure higher B than A!
 
billy_joule said:
correct on both counts.
But what about C? Is the pressure at C the same as the pressure at B?
 
No, not the same, apply Bernoulli's equation again.
 

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