Fluid mechanics: calc the acceleration of a particle at a point.

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around determining the value of a constant B in a given velocity field to ensure it represents an incompressible flow. Participants also explore how to calculate the acceleration of a fluid particle at a specific point and evaluate the component of acceleration normal to the velocity vector.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that the incompressibility condition links the derivatives of the velocities in both directions, providing a constraint to calculate B.
  • Another participant suggests that the relationship should be expressed as du/dx = -dv/dy, indicating a misunderstanding of the relationship between the derivatives.
  • A participant attempts to derive equations for u and v but finds that their results do not help in solving for B, expressing uncertainty about their calculations.
  • Another participant claims that the second equation can be solved for B, implying a potential path forward.
  • One participant calculates B as 1.2/2 and questions if this is correct.
  • A later reply agrees with the calculation, noting that it satisfies the equations for both i and j components simultaneously.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the approach to link the incompressibility condition to the derivatives of the velocity components, but there is some confusion regarding the correct formulation of the relationship. The calculation of B appears to reach a tentative agreement, but the overall discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of the derived value.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the relationships between the derivatives and the implications for calculating B. There are indications of missing assumptions or steps in the reasoning process that could affect the conclusions drawn.

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Homework Statement



A velocity field is given by \vec{V}= [Ax^{3} + Bxy^{2}]\hat{i} + [Ay^{3} + Bx^{2}y]\hat{j}; A=0.2 m^{-2}s^{-1}, B is a constant, and the
coordinates are measured in meters. Determine the value and
units for B if this velocity field is to represent an incompressible
flow. Calculate the acceleration of a fluid particle at point
(x, y)=(2, 1). Evaluate the component of particle acceleration
normal to the velocity vector at this point.

Homework Equations



u=\frac{\partial\Psi}{\partial y} v=-\frac{\partial\Psi}{\partial x}

The Attempt at a Solution



I used the above equation to get value equations u and v, there is something I'm missing, a bit of reasoning that has to be made using the given information to determine a constraint that exists since the fluid is incompressible. This should link the rates of change to each other. But that's where I get stuck, having trouble hanging on to all the concepts..

u = [2Bxy]\hat{i} + [.6y^{2} + Bx^{2}]\hat{j}
v = -[.6x^{2} + By^{2}]\hat{i} - [2Bxy]\hat{j}

Assumptions:
1. Incompressible flow
2. B is constant
 
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"Incompressible" links the derivatives of the velocities in both directions.
This gives you one constraint and allows to calculate B.
 
so du = -dv? increases of u lead to decreases of v.
 
Not du = -dv, but du/dx = -dv/dy (or the other way round?) should work.
 
when I try \frac{du}{dx} = -\frac{dv}{dy} I get

[2By]\hat{i} + [2Bx]\hat{j} = [2By]\hat{i} + [2Bx]\hat{j}

which doesn't help solve for B, unless I'm messing up somewhere or forgetting something.
The same happens when I take \frac{du}{dy} = -\frac{dv}{dy}

[2Bx]\hat{i} + [1.2y]\hat{j} = [1.2x]\hat{i} + [2By]\hat{j}
 
The second equation can be solved for B.
 
I'm getting B = 1.2/2
does that look right?
 
I think so. It solves the equations for i and j at the same time, which looks good.
 

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