Fluid pressure (verification please)

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The discussion revolves around calculating the force exerted on the bottom of a tank filled with water, given a specific gauge pressure and area. The subject area includes fluid pressure and unit conversions between metric and imperial systems.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between pressure, area, and force, questioning unit conversions and calculations. There are attempts to clarify the correct conversion factors for area and pressure, as well as the proper application of formulas.

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Several participants have provided guidance on unit conversions and the application of the pressure formula. There is an ongoing exploration of different interpretations of the area conversion, with some participants expressing confusion about the calculations and units used.

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Participants are required to use specific units from their textbook and round to one decimal place, which has led to discrepancies in calculations. There is also a focus on ensuring consistent units throughout the problem.

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1. The water in a tank is at a gauge pressure of 267,018 Pa. If the bottom of the tank that has an area of 0.8 m2, what is the force on the bottom of the tank?



2. P=F/A; F=P*A



3. Converted Pa into 38.8psi for P (267,018/6890); Converted the Area into 103.7 in^2 (.8*10.8*12); Multiply [P*A] 38.8 * 103.7 = 4023.6 in lbs = 335.3 lbs of force. Did I do this right?
 
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The portion about the Paschals to PSI is pretty close but the area portion is wrong.
 
We are to use all units in the book and to 1 decimal place rounded up so that's where I came up with the Pa conversion.

Hmmm, in my book, the conversion is 1m^2 = 10.8ft^2, so I converted the m - ft by multiplying it leaving 8.6ft^2. I had to get the units to be the same so converted ft^2 to in^2, multiplying it by 12. Where did I go wrong? Thanks in advance for your guidance.
 
How many SQUARE inches in a SQUARE foot?
 
gotcha, I needed to multiply by 144, not 12, right? But in that case, my numbers seem way too high.
 
You have pressure of roughly 38 psi with an area of .8 m^2 which is about 1240 in^2. The force is large.
 
So that leave me 48,275 psi, or 335.2 ft lb^2. The force is 112,359 lbs.
 
No. Pressure times area is force. Why do you write psi for force? Force is pounds. Pressure is pounds per square inch.

The units work algebraically just like variables.

(lbs/in^2)X(in^2) = lbs

The pressure is 267018 Pa which is 38.73 lbs/in^2
The area is 0.8 m^2 which is 1240 in^2.

Multiply them!
 
OK, I am totally confused. Let me start over.

The pascal conversion was fine, no need to work with that anymore. 38.8 lb/in^2
Area: [1m^2 = 10.8ft^2]; [10.8ft^2 = 1555.2 in^2] Convert the area 1555.2 * 0.8 = 1244.2in^2.
The force is 38.8 * 1244.2 = 48,275lbs
 
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That's it. You've got it now.
 
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Thanks Lawrence for helping me understand what I was doing wrong.
 

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