Flux from magnet (Why is the Flux not zero through the loop?)

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The discussion centers on why the magnetic flux through a loop is not zero despite equal field lines entering and exiting. Participants clarify that the concept of flux applies to open surfaces and that the equation for magnetic flux is φ = BAcosθ. The direction of the magnetic field relative to the surface normal is crucial, with the normal pointing right and the field left, leading to a negative cosine value. This indicates that while the magnetic field varies across the surface, it consistently maintains a negative sign. Ultimately, the participants conclude that the magnetic flux is negative due to the orientation of the field.
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Why is the magnetic Flux not zero through the loop?

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Here‘s a picture of the field lines. Why do you think the answer is zero?

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Frabjous said:
Here‘s a picture of the field lines. Why do you think the answer is zero?

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Thanks for your reply @Frabjous! because the number of field lines going into the loop is equal to the number going out.
 
This is an open surface. There is no in and out. These apply only to closed surfaces. You should review the definition of flux through a surface. According to your idea, the flux would be always zero.
 
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The flux is a measure of the net amount going through a surface. What equation are you using for flux?
 
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Frabjous said:
The flux is a measure of the net amount going through a surface. What equation are you using for flux?
Thank you for your replies @nasu and @Frabjous ! The equation for magnetic flux is ##\phi = BA\cos\theta ##
 
What is the sign of cosθ for the surface of interest? Hint: the normal to the surface is pointing to the right. The B field is pointing to the left.
 
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What is the sign of cosθ for the surface of interest? Hint: the normal to the surface is pointing to the right. The B field is pointing to the left.
Thanks for your reply @Frabjous ! I think the direction of the B-field relative to the surface normal varies along the surface.

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Yes it varies, but it is all the same sign. What is the sign?
 
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Yes it varies, but it is all the same sign. What is the sign?
Thanks for your reply @Frabjous ! I think the sign is negative because ##\theta > 90 ## so ##\cos\theta < 0 ##

Thanks again, I see why the magnetic flux is negative now.
 
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