Flux in an Electric Field: Understanding and Calculating Flux through Surfaces

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The discussion revolves around calculating electric flux through surfaces in an electric field, particularly focusing on a scenario where the total vector flux is zero due to no charge inside a cube. Participants are examining the mathematical formulation of flux and the implications of integrating the electric field over the surface area.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the flux through each side of a cube using the integral of the electric field. They express uncertainty about their integration process. Other participants suggest clarifying the equation for electric flux and discuss the implications of the dot product in the context of the problem. There are mentions of the potential simplicity of the problem, indicating that integration may not be necessary.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing clarifications on the mathematical expressions involved and questioning the assumptions made by the original poster. Some guidance has been offered regarding the dot product and the normal vector, but no consensus has been reached on the approach to take.

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Participants are navigating potential misunderstandings related to the integration process and the mathematical formulation of electric flux. The original poster expresses a lack of confidence in their calculations, which may be affecting their approach to the problem.

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hello everybody,
this is a question that has been buffeling me for a while. everything is in this image: http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/5213/58136160lu9.jpg

i know 2 things:
1. the total (vector) flux is 0 (no charge inside the cube)
2. the flux through each side is [tex]\int_{S}*E dA[/tex]
so I've tried
(the flux through shaded) = - (all the rest)
and calculating each side separately but i just don't get it right!
iv'e been integrating since yesterday morning and i have no confidence in my integrals anymore... :-(

could someone explain what I'm missing please?

Thanks!
 
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I think this is just a 'latex issue' but the correct equation should be:
[tex]\phi_E = \oint_S \vec{E} \cdot \vec{dA}[/tex]
(note in particular the use of the vector dot product)
 
If I haven't missunderstood something there aren't that much integration involved. Everytime you dot with dA you'll get a scalar and a dobbel integral from 0 to 80 cm
 
yes, there won't actually be an integral to evaluate, if you're tricky (but you can do it with an integral if you want). The first thing you have to do is dot the E field with the vector dA. remember that:

[tex]\vec{dA} = \frac{\vec{n}}{|\vec{n}|}|\vec{dA}|[/tex]
this normal vector is the one that is normal to the surface that you will be integrating over. So, in totality, you get:
[tex]\phi_E = \int \int_S \vec{E} \cdot \frac{\vec{n}}{|\vec{n}|}|\vec{dA}|[/tex]

So, what is your normal vector, and what is dA?
 

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