Flux through surface of half a cone

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The discussion focuses on calculating the electric flux entering the left side of a cone with base radius R and height h, subjected to a horizontal electric field. The formula for electric flux is defined as the surface integral of the electric field component normal to the surface. The initial calculation incorrectly assumes the angle between the electric field and the normal to the cone's surface, leading to a discrepancy with the book's answer of ERh. A correct understanding of the angles involved and the effective surface area is essential for accurate computation.

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Homework Statement


find electric flux that enters left hand side of a cone (with base radius R and height h). electric field penetrates the cone horizontally (cone is on a horizontal table).


Homework Equations


flux = surface integral of EdA
where E represents component of electric field normal to surface


The Attempt at a Solution


so that's the formula I got from my book... so I thought I had to find the integral of Ecos(theta)dA... since Ecos(theta) would be the component of E that's normal to slanted surface of the cone... and if I integrate with respect to A I get Ecos(theta)A... cos(theta) is h/sqrt(h^2+R^2)... area of cone (minus the base) is pi*R*sqrt(h^2+R^2)...

so I did... E*(h/sqrt(h^2+R^2))*[pi*R*sqrt(h^2+R^2)]/2
once I cancel out stuff, I get: E*(h)(pi*R)/2... 2piERh
however, the back of my book says the answer is ERh... why??
 
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If theta is the semi-vertical angle (as it appears to be), then that is not the angle between the E field and the normal to each area element (it will only be true of those field lines that pass through the axis of the cone). Consider, for instance, a field line that just barely glances past the surface (i.e., is tangential to it) - clearly the angle between E and A is then 90*.

You need to first be clear about the angles involved before you can proceed. Does this make sense to you?

PS: Hint for proceeding - notice the relation between the dot product of two vectors and the projection of one vector along the other.
 
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the reason why your ans is wrong is because the angle that you've calculated need some thinking, and think of the effective surface area facing the flux, knowing that, you should have your answer
 

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