Flywheel storing kinetic energy

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving a flywheel with a specified diameter and mass, focusing on the maximum kinetic energy that can be stored without exceeding a given acceleration limit at its rim. The subject area includes concepts from rotational dynamics and centripetal acceleration.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between linear and radial acceleration, questioning how to relate these to the kinetic energy of the flywheel. There is discussion about the implications of constant angular velocity and the nature of centripetal acceleration.

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Some participants have provided hints and guidance regarding the use of centripetal acceleration and the relationship between linear velocity and angular velocity. There is acknowledgment of the calculations made by one participant, with another confirming the reasoning behind the approach.

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Participants note the importance of understanding the distinction between centripetal acceleration and rotational acceleration, as well as the constraints imposed by the maximum allowable acceleration at the rim of the flywheel.

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Homework Statement


There is a 2.30 m diameter flywheel, with a mass of 75.0 kg. For safety/structural (or whatever) reasons, the acceleration at a point on it's rim cannot exceed 3430 m/s^2.

What is the max KE that can be stored in the flywheel?

Homework Equations


KE = \frac{1}{2}Iω^{2}
I = kmr^{2}
The constant k, for a solid uniform disk is \frac{1}{2}

The Attempt at a Solution



KE = \frac{1}{4}(75.0)(1.15^{2})ω^{2}I'm not sure how to go about getting this in terms of radial acceleration?

I was thinking that I could somehow use the relationship that linear acceleration (a) = radial acceleration (α) times the radius.
a = αr

But that is not panning out at all. Can someone give me some direction please?
 
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Hint: What causes a flywheel to fail? Flywheels are generally heavy so they do not accelerate angularly at a high rate. So what else is there?
 
You need Fc = ma = mv²/r
 
I think one can assume that the angular velocity is constant. Then a point on its rim will have no tangential acceleration but only centripetal acceleration.

Then one can use v = r x omega
 
Hint: What's the centripetal acceleration at the outer edge of the flywheel? There's a neat formula for it.
 
Delphi51 said:
You need Fc = ma = mv²/r

I don't see how to use that in this situation. I don't know the centripetal force, or the linear velocity, nor do I understand how to get the maximum kinetic energy out of the equation, or substitute that into the formula for the radial kinetic energy?
 
QuarkCharmer said:
I don't see how to use that in this situation. I don't know the centripetal force, or the linear velocity, nor do I understand how to get the maximum kinetic energy out of the equation, or substitute that into the formula for the radial kinetic energy?

But you certainly know the maximum acceleration which is in what direction?
 
Oh, wait. The acceleration is in m/s^2, by "radial" they are talking about the centripetal acceleration, not the "rotational acceleration (rad/s^2). So:

a_{c}=\frac{v^{2}}{r}
v = ωr
a_{c} = \frac{(ωr)^{2}}{r}
a_{c} = r(ω)^{2}
3430 = (1.15)ω^{2}
\frac{3430}{1.15} = ω^{2}
ω_{max} = 54.61

Now:

KE_{max} = \frac{1}{2}Iω^{2}
KE_{max} = \frac{1}{2}I(54.61)^{2}
I = 0.5(75)(1.15)^{2} = 49.59375

KE_{max} = \frac{1}{2}(49.59375)(54.61)^{2}

KE_{max} = 73950.53 J

Does that make sense?
 
What you did makes sense. I did not check your value for I but using your value for I in my equations, I get essentially the same answer.

Flywheels fail because the internal forces (which are due to centripetal forces) cause stresses that exceed what the material can withstand.
 
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Great, thanks! I am sure that my I value is correct, I pulled it from the tables.

Appreciate the help, I can't believe I didn't catch that they were not talking about rotational acceleration.
 

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