Force Direction of Alpha Particle in Magnetic Field

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An alpha particle traveling east at 2.0 x 10^5 m/s enters a magnetic field of 0.20 T pointing straight up, resulting in a force calculated using F = qvBsinø. The right-hand rule indicates that the force direction is south, as it is perpendicular to both the velocity and magnetic field vectors. The discussion clarifies that the force cannot point in the same direction as either the velocity or magnetic field, leading to a conclusion that the force is indeed directed south. Misunderstandings about the direction arise from confusion over the orientation of the magnetic field and the application of the right-hand rule. Ultimately, the force acting on the alpha particle is confirmed to be 1.28 x 10^-14 N directed south.
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Homework Statement


An alpha particle (two protons and two neutrons) traveling east at 2.0 x 105 m/s enters a magnetic field of 0.20 T pointing straight up. What is the force acting on the alpha particle?

Homework Equations


F = qvBsinø

The Attempt at a Solution


With the fingers of the right hand pointing straight up, and the thumb pointing east, the palm points south.
F = qvBsinø = (2 x 1.6 x 10-19 C)(2.0 x 105 m/s)(0.20 T)sin90º = 1.28 x 10-14 N

Need a little help on the direction. This was the answer found when I checked it, but that can't be right. Isn't the correct answer [out]?
 
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qswdefrg said:
With the fingers of the right hand pointing straight up, and the thumb pointing east, the palm points south.
F = qvBsinø = (2 x 1.6 x 10-19 C)(2.0 x 105 m/s)(0.20 T)sin90º = 1.28 x 10-14 N

'Looks okay to me. :approve:
Need a little help on the direction. This was the answer found when I checked it, but that can't be right. Isn't the correct answer [out]?
Out of what? :-p

The magnetic force, \vec F = q \vec v \times \vec B involves the cross product between two vectors: the velocity vector and the magnetic field vector.

The cross product means that the result will be perpendicular to both vectors. In other words, the force is perpendicular to both the magnetic field and also perpendicular to the velocity.

Still in other words, if the magnetic field points completely in an up/down direction, the force does not point in the up/down direction at all. If the velocity points completely in the east/west direction, the force does not point in the east/west direction at all. So in this problem, the only direction left that's perpendicular to both is the north/south direction. The right hand rule let's you know that the force points south instead of north (and because the charge is positive -- reverse direction for negative charges).
 
So imagine your cardinal directions are in the plane of the computer screen. That is, East is ------> that way. So the magnetic field pointing "up" would be OUT of the screen, rather than North.

Otherwise, since the problem is written as if you're working a piece of paper, the cardinal directions are in the plane of your keyboard, with East pointing toward your Enter/Return button. "Up" is then up toward the ceiling if you're keyboard is flat.

Right hand rule for your cross product: put your fingers along v (east), curl them into B (out of the screen toward yourself, or if you're using the keyboard way then up to the ceiling) and your thumb points in the direction of the force (which, note, is in the same plane as your cardinal directions).
 
The book claims the answer is that all the magnitudes are the same because "the gravitational force on the penguin is the same". I'm having trouble understanding this. I thought the buoyant force was equal to the weight of the fluid displaced. Weight depends on mass which depends on density. Therefore, due to the differing densities the buoyant force will be different in each case? Is this incorrect?

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