Force due to gravity inside planet

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The discussion revolves around a problem in classical gravitation involving the force due to gravity inside a spherical planet with varying density. The original poster presents a scenario where the density is constant in one region and reduced in another, leading to a question about the location of maximum gravitational force within the planet.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the relationship between gravitational force and radial distance within the planet, questioning the expected behavior of the force at different radii. There is a discussion about the effects of density on gravitational force and the implications of the shell theorem.

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Some participants have confirmed the original poster's assertion regarding the maximum force occurring at r = R/2, while others have raised questions about specific terms in the force equations, indicating a productive exploration of the problem's nuances.

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There are differing interpretations of the force equations, particularly regarding the contributions from different density regions. The discussion reflects an ongoing examination of the assumptions made about the planet's structure and the implications for gravitational force calculations.

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Here is a simple problem in classical gravitation.

Consider a spherical planet of radius R, and let the radial coordinate r originate from the plant's center. If the density of the planet is ρ from 0 ≤ r < R/2 and ρ/3 from R/2 < r < R, then my work tells me that the maximum force due to gravity inside the planet is at r = R/2, not at r = R as one might expect.

[tex]0\leq r\leq R/2,\qquad F_G = \frac{Gm\left(\rho \frac{4}{3}\pi r^3\right)}{r^2} = \frac{4\pi}{3}Gm\rho r \\<br /> R/2 \leq r \leq R,\qquad F_G = \frac{Gm\left[ \rho\frac{4\pi}{3}\left(\frac{R}{2} \right)^3 + \frac{\rho}{3}\frac{4\pi}{3} \left( r^3 - \left(\frac{R}{2} \right)^3 \right) \right]}{r^2} = \frac{4\pi}{3}\frac{Gm\rho}{r^2}\left[ \left(\frac{R}{2} \right)^3 + \frac{1}{3}r^3 - \frac{1}{3}\left(\frac{R}{2} \right)^3 \right][/tex]

My work is above. Is this be correct, that the maximum force due to gravity would be at r = R/2? Thanks for your time!
 
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Neglecting 4pi/3 Gmρ as prefactor:

In the inner part: ##F \propto r##
In the outer part: ##F \propto (\frac{R}{2})^3/r^2 + 1/3 (r-\frac{R}{2}) = \frac{1}{r^2} ((\frac{R}{2})^3+\frac{1}{3}r^3-\frac{1}{3}(\frac{R}{2})r^2)##

I get a different third term for the force.

##\frac{dF}{dr}=-\frac{R^3}{4r^3} + \frac{1}{3}## which is 0 at ##4r^3=3R^3##, it has a minimum in the less dense region.

F(R/2) > F(R), so I can confirm your result.
 
Thanks mfb. Regarding our difference, I think your third term might be mistaken. If we hollow out the planet from 0 ≤ r < R/2, then the force due to gravity in the domain R/2 ≤ r ≤ R is

[tex]F_G = \frac{Gm\frac{\rho}{3}}{r^2}\left[ \frac{4\pi}{3}r^3 - \frac{4\pi}{3}\left(\frac{R}{2}\right)^3\right][/tex]

By the shell theorem, it as if all the volume enclosed is contained in a point at the center. Do you agree?
 
Oh, you are right.
 

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