Force graphs and stress-strain graphs

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the characteristics of force-extension and force-compression graphs, as well as the similarities and differences between compressive and tensile stress-strain graphs. Participants explore theoretical aspects of these graphs in the context of material behavior under different types of stress.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether a force-compression graph is similar to a force-extension graph, suggesting that it may differ only in the axes used.
  • Another participant seeks clarification on whether compressive-strain graphs resemble tensile stress-strain graphs.
  • Some participants propose that certain materials may exhibit similar behavior when compressed and stretched, prompting inquiries about specific examples.
  • A later reply discusses the behavior of a spring under compression, noting that it may follow Hooke's law until the loops of the spring make contact, after which the behavior changes significantly.
  • There is a question regarding whether compression stress-strain graphs would be the same as tensile graphs, indicating uncertainty in the relationship between the two.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the similarities between compressive and tensile graphs, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact nature of these relationships.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about material behavior that may not be universally applicable, and there are unresolved questions regarding the mathematical representation of stress-strain relationships.

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I know what a force-extension graph looks like.

DOes a force-compression graph look the same just with different axis?
(compression on the x-axis NOT extension)

DOes a compressive-strain graph (Young Modulus) look the same as a tensile stress-strain graph?

if not what do they look like

thanks
 
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What do you think?
 
Dadface said:
What do you think?

I think that they would be the same but I was just clarifying

Am I correct?
 
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Can you think of any sample of any material which when compressed acts in a similar way to when stretched?
 
Dadface said:
Can you think of any sample of any material which when compressed acts in a similar way to when stretched?

A slinky spring?
 
I am now imagining a spring where the loops are not touching.When compressed the spring may display a Hooke's law type of behaviour but only until the loops actually make contact in which case any further compressive force tends to laterally distort the spring and or compress the material from which the spring is made from.Any resulting compression will be extremely (possibly immeasurably) small.Depending on the exact structure of the spring the Hooke's law type extension can be much greater than the compression and exceeding the elastic limit can result in the spring displaying increasing extensions similar to those displayed by ductile materials going into plastic regions.In short,with this example and others I can think of I can see some similarities between stretching and compressing but only for a narrow region surrounding the unstretched/uncompressed length.
 
For compression stress-strain graphs it would be the same then? or not?
 
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