Force of Friction: Car Skids on Ice/Snow

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The discussion centers on the physics of friction as it relates to a car skidding on ice and snow. The correct answer to the posed question is "E," which states that the force of friction is equal to the normal force of the road multiplied by the coefficient of kinetic friction. Participants clarified that while the car is skidding, the frictional force remains constant, but the deceleration due to braking is affected. The confusion arose from the interpretation of the coefficients of static and kinetic friction in the context of skidding.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of Newton's laws of motion
  • Knowledge of friction coefficients, specifically static and kinetic friction
  • Familiarity with the equation for kinetic friction: Fk = μkN
  • Basic principles of deceleration and braking dynamics
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  • Study the differences between static and kinetic friction coefficients
  • Learn about the effects of surface conditions on friction, particularly ice and snow
  • Explore real-world applications of friction in automotive safety systems
  • Investigate the physics of skidding and stopping distances in various conditions
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Homework Statement




13. As a car skids with its wheels locked trying to stop on a road covered with ice and snow, the force of friction between the icy road and the tires will usually be: (Please note that “normal” and “perpendicular” have the same meaning)

A. greater than the normal force of the road times the coefficient of static friction
B. equal to the normal force of the road times the coefficient of static friction
C. less than the normal force of the road times the coefficient of kinetic friction
D. greater than the normal force of the road times the coefficient of kinetic friction
E. equal to the normal force of the road times the coefficient of kinetic friction.


Homework Equations



Fk=μkn

The Attempt at a Solution


I know that it is kinetic friction since the car is moving. I think that the answer is "C" because the force of friction would be less since the car is skidding. Not sure though, could somebody either confirm my answer or clear up my confusion please?
 
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Is this a trick question?

You have the equation right in front of you:

FR = μKN

Is this not your answer? Or am I reading the question wrong?
 
It's really not a quick question... I am really just unsure of myself... I take that from your comment you are trying to tell me that the answer then is "E"? Please confirm if the answer is E then. Thank you.
 
I don't like this question. Do they mean the coefficient of kinetic friction while skidding or not? It could be either or depending on the context.
 
Not sure. I am guessing it would be "E" since the more I think about it, I put "C" on the test and got it wrong.
 
Harsh. They could've given you more information.
 
Ahh yes it is E if you think about it, the frictional force is the same as if it wasn't skidding, however the decceleration due to braking is gone because the tyres are skidding, therefore it takes longer to stop.
 
Thank you.
 

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