Force on the car in a collision

  • #31
Nile Anderson said:
how do we define a force again, I think my error lies there , is it not the change of momentum rather than the momentum
It's neither.
A force is something one body exerts on another. A consequence of a force acting over a period of time can be a change in momentum.
Nile Anderson said:
I am thinking really on a resultant
Sure, but you have to identify the body acted on. If you fix on one of the cars, the other car exerts a force on it during the impact, but it does not exert a force on itself, so the resultant is not zero.
To get a zero resultant here you need to introduce a third object for both cars to act on.
 
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  • #32
haruspex said:
It's neither.
A force is something one body exerts on another. A consequence of a force acting over a period of time can be a change in momentum.

Sure, but you have to identify the body acted on. If you fix on one of the cars, the other car exerts a force on it during the impact, but it does not exert a force on itself, so the resultant is not zero.
To get a zero resultant here you need to introduce a third object for both cars to act on.
Newton's Second Law ?
 
  • #33
Nile Anderson said:
Newton's Second Law ?
Applied here how, exactly?
 
  • #34
F=mv-mu/t=m(v-u)/t=ma
 
  • #35
Nile Anderson said:
F=mv-mu/t=m(v-u)/t=ma
I asked exactly how you are applying it in the present context. Which body has mass m? What force acting on the body is represented by F? What time period does t stand for?
Anyway, F=m(v-u)/t is not quite right. That will give you the average force over the time interval t. Likewise, your a is the average acceleration.,
 
  • #36
I see , interpretation then
 
  • #37
Nile Anderson said:
I see , interpretation then
No, not interpretation, application. It doesn't mean anything to quote a law in relation to a problem if you cannot state how the entities in the law relate to those in the problem.
 
  • #38
haruspex said:
No, not interpretation, application. It doesn't mean anything to quote a law in relation to a problem if you cannot state how the entities in the law relate to those in the problem.
I say interpretation to say that you are completely right my friend , I have thought about it and that is what I meant you are right , I started with in inaccurate point, trying to defend that point , but deduction can truly get you know where with an incorrect base
 
  • #39
Nile Anderson said:
I say interpretation to say that you are completely right my friend , I have thought about it and that is what I meant you are right , I started with in inaccurate point, trying to defend that point , but deduction can truly get you know where with an incorrect base
OK.
 
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