Force Vector Problem: Find Magnitude of Force on Rider from Motorcycle

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion centers on calculating the magnitude of the force exerted on a 67.0 kg rider by a motorcycle accelerating at 3.2 m/s² up a 10° ramp. The initial calculation of the normal force, determined to be 646.62 N, was incorrect as it only accounted for the vertical component of the forces. The correct approach involves calculating the net force on the rider, which is found to be 214.4 N, by considering both the normal force and the force exerted by the motorcycle in the direction of the ramp's incline.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of Newton's Second Law of Motion
  • Knowledge of force components in inclined planes
  • Familiarity with trigonometric functions, specifically cosine
  • Ability to set up coordinate systems for force analysis
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the concept of net force and its calculation in inclined planes
  • Learn how to resolve forces into their components using trigonometry
  • Explore the implications of acceleration on force calculations
  • Review examples of force analysis in physics problems involving ramps
USEFUL FOR

Students studying physics, particularly those focusing on mechanics and force analysis, as well as educators seeking to clarify concepts related to forces on inclined planes.

Elmnt
Messages
13
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement


A motorcycle and 67.0 kg rider accelerate at 3.2 m/s2 up a ramp inclined 10° above the horizontal.

What is the magnitude of the force on the rider from the motorcycle?


Homework Equations


I set my 90 degree axis so that my x-axis lined up with the acceleration up the ramp and my y-axis lined up with the normal force. So my y component would be
normal force-mass*gravity*cos 10° = mass*acceleration y


The Attempt at a Solution


I am thinking that the normal force is the force on the rider from the bike and with the way my axis is set up there will be no y acceleration so,

normal force= mass*gravity*cos10°

it gives and answer of 646.62 N but they say this answer is wrong. Am I missing something or misinterpreting?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Elmnt said:
Am I missing something or misinterpreting?

Well, for some reason you are calculating only the normal force, when this is not what is being asked for.
 
I'm sorry I didn't post the first question asked. Which was:
(a) What is the magnitude of the net force on the rider?

Which I found to be 214.4 N.

I am missing something, What am I supposed to calculate? Isn't normal force the only force from the motorcycle onto the rider? My only other thought is including the acceleration caused by the bike.
 
Elmnt said:
Isn't normal force the only force from the motorcycle onto the rider?

No. If this were the case, why would the rider be accelerating up the ramp?
 
I wasn't paying attention to the force from the motorcycle the accelerates the rider up the ramp. With that now understood I can take the normal force that I had found and use it as a y component and then find the force that the bike applies to the rider going up the ramp and use that as the x component on the rider. Solving for these two components should give me my magnitude of force on the rider from the bike.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
Replies
3
Views
1K
  • · Replies 30 ·
2
Replies
30
Views
2K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
Replies
3
Views
3K
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
3K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
17K