Forces, vectors and acceleration

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The problem involves analyzing the forces acting on a 3.0 kg body moving on a frictionless surface, specifically focusing on two horizontal forces: one of 9.0 N directed east and another of 8.2 N directed 51° north of west. The objective is to determine the body's acceleration.

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  • Participants discuss vector addition and the correct interpretation of angles in relation to the coordinate system. There is an exploration of the calculations involved in determining the resultant force and subsequent acceleration.

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Some participants have identified potential errors in the original poster's calculations, particularly regarding the addition of vectors and the interpretation of angles. There is an ongoing examination of how to correctly represent the angles and their impact on the resultant force.

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Participants are questioning the clarity of the angle definitions and whether they should be measured from the horizontal or vertical axes. There is also a mention of a possible misunderstanding regarding the quadrant in which the angle is situated.

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Homework Statement


Only two horizontal forces act on a 3.0 kg body that can move over a frictionless floor. One force is 9.0 N, acting due east, and the other is 8.2 N, acting 51° north of west. What is the magnitude of the body's acceleration?


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F=ma

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I have 51º NW at 8.2N and 0º E at 9N
51º is actually 141º from x-axis and I will do the calculations from there.

I am basically subtracting one vector from the other to see the resultant and I get the acceleration by using F = ma

math:
NWx = 8.2 cos 141º = -6.37i
NWy = 8.2 sin 141º = 5.16j

Ex = 9 cos 0º = 9i
Ey = 9 sin 0º = 0j

subtract to get
-6.37i+ 5.16j
+
9 i + 0j
______________________________
3.37i + 5.16j = R

now find R in N
3.372+5.162 = 37.98
[itex]\sqrt{37.8}[/itex] = 6.16N = F
6.16N = 3kg * a
6.16N / 3 kg = 2.05m/s2 = a

my answer is supposed to be 2.48m/s2
where did I lose it?
 
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netrunnr said:
subtract to get
-6.37i+ 5.16j
+
9 i + 0j
______________________________
3.37i + 5.16j = R

It looks like you're doing OK until you get to this bit. You say subtract, but you are adding the two vectors (which is the correct thing to do). But then the answer you get doesn't look right. You did -6.37+9 which is not equal to 3.37
 
180-51= ?
 
I think he's doing 90+51. This is another thing to watch out for. The question is a bit vague whether the angle is to be taken from the horizontal or from the vertical.
 
oh , if you take the angle between the F vectors to be 129 , you get the answer correctly
 
51 degree north of west means 51 degree taken from x-axis in II quadrant??
 
first thanks for pointing out the math error 9 - 6.37 is 2.63! my bad.

kushan said:
51 degree north of west means 51 degree taken from x-axis in II quadrant??

yes, this is my problem. it was taken from the x-axis in QII and I was taking it from the norther direction in Q II so I did 51º + 90º and it should have been 180º - 51º giving me an angle of 129º from the positive x axis.

thanks!
 

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