Formula for sink rate for aircraft landing?

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of sink rate for aircraft during landing, exploring the forces acting on the aircraft, particularly focusing on drag, lift, thrust, and gravity. Participants delve into the theoretical and practical aspects of these calculations, including the factors influencing drag and the dynamics involved in the landing process.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the formula for calculating sink rate, defining it as the distance per time the aircraft descends to touchdown.
  • Another participant suggests that sink/climb rate can be estimated using aircraft weight, thrust, airspeed, and glide ratio, presenting a formula that incorporates these variables.
  • A different participant presents equations related to glide ratio and sink rate, assuming constant velocity and no wind, and discusses the relationship between drag, thrust, and weight.
  • One participant describes the flare stage of landing, emphasizing the role of drag versus kinetic energy and the effect of increasing the angle of attack on lift and drag.
  • A later reply challenges the assertion that drag significantly affects sink rate during the flare, arguing that the primary effect of raising the nose is to increase lift rather than drag.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between drag and sink rate during the flare, with some asserting that drag is a significant factor while others argue that lift plays a more critical role. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact influence of these forces on sink rate.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various assumptions, such as constant velocity and the absence of wind, which may limit the applicability of their proposed formulas. Additionally, the complexity of drag calculations and the influence of different aircraft configurations are acknowledged but not fully explored.

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Hello,
my first post here.

I'm an avid flight sim enthusiast. I wanted to ask what is the formula for calculation of sink rate for aircrafts?

I know 4 forces act on the airframe:

lift
drag
gravity
thrust

sink rate is the amount of distance/time the aircraft sinks from final position to reach touchdown on the runway threshold. usually measured in feet/second.

Another thing I wanted, is how drag is represented. I mean what is drag? how to calculate drag on an aircraft grossing 31,000 lbs. what factors must be taken into account?

thanks in advance.
 
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Sink/climb rate is determined by aircraft weight, thrust, air speed, and glide ratio at current air speed. As long as angle of descent/climb is relatively small, it can be estimated as speed*(thrust-weight/glide)/weight. Positive value for climb, negative for descent.

You can estimate drag on the aircraft by dividing weight of the aircraft by glide ratio.
 
I had the impression the equations below applied, although maybe they turn out to be the same as what K2 posted.

Assume aircraft is at constant velocity, and no wind (else use air as frame of reference).

let θ = angle of aircraft path versus horizontal (zero = horizontal, + is climb, - is sink)

climb or sink glide ratio = tan(θ) (+ for climb, - for sink)

climb or sink rate = speed x sin(θ)

drag = thrust - weight x sin(θ)
 
The "sink rate" in the last stages of a flare, which is what the latter part of the landing process is called, is mostly a process of drag vs kinetic energy.

The process is to increase the drag by raising the nose of the aircraft, therefore increasing the angle-of-attack of the wing. The variables involved in the flare would be the lift/drag characteristics of the wing,including of course the flaps, the drag of the fuselage, the "entry" speed (how much kinetic energy) and the amount of power you use to modify the level of that kinetic energy.

Gravity is a constant unless you get heavy-handed, which does happen. Chuckle.

As for the formulas, look into aerodynamics online. You might want to take some aspirin first.
 
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DarioC said:
The "sink rate" in the last stages of a flare, which is what the latter part of the landing process is called, is mostly a process of drag vs kinetic energy.

The process is to increase the drag by raising the nose of the aircraft, therefore increasing the angle-of-attack of the wing.

No - the sink rate during flare is not significantly affected by drag.

What raising the nose does is increase the angle of attack, which incidentally does increase drag - but the main effect is to increase lift. Since the lift becomes larger than weight - it used to be equal to weight during approach - the plane starts to accelerate upwards, and the sink rate therefore starts to decrease.
 
thanks for all suggestions.
 

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