Formula of Average Magnetic B Field Strength of Large Conductor

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around calculating the magnetic B field strength at a distance from a large conductor, with considerations for different types of magnets and their configurations. Participants explore various methods and formulas, including the application of Ampere's Law and the complexities involved with different magnet shapes and motions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the method to calculate the magnetic B field strength at a distance from a large conductor, questioning whether an average value is appropriate.
  • Another participant suggests using Ampere's Law as a potential approach to the calculation.
  • It is noted that the distance (d) from the center of the wire is a relevant factor in the calculations.
  • Some participants express that calculating the magnetic field strength due to a permanent magnet can be complex, especially for arbitrarily shaped magnets, and propose summing magnetic dipoles over the volume as a method, though they acknowledge limitations in available data.
  • Further contributions mention the intention to calculate EMF as the magnet moves, indicating that the type of magnet (N35 or N52) and its rotational motion should not affect the formula being sought.
  • Participants seek additional ideas on how to calculate the magnetic field strength under these conditions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on a specific method for calculating the magnetic B field strength, and multiple competing views and approaches are presented throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the applicability of different formulas and the complexity of the calculations involved, particularly with respect to the shape and motion of the magnets.

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Any one knows how to calculate the magnetic B field strength at a distance from a Large Conductor ? Do we go by average ?

thanks

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benofer90 said:
Any one knows how to calculate the magnetic B field strength at a distance from a Large Conductor ? Do we go by average ?

thanks

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Use Ampere's Law:

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Oh, and d is the distance from the center of the wire.
 
berkeman said:
Oh, and d is the distance from the center of the wire.

I do believe he means the magnetic field strength due to the perm. magnet.

In general, for an arbitrarily shaped magnet, this is difficult. One method would be to add up the magnetic dipoles over the volume, although I don't believe the value is given in a materials data sheet.
 
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stedwards said:
I do believe he means the magnetic field strength due to the perm. magnet.

In general, for an arbitrarily shaped magnet, this is difficult. One method would be to add up the magnetic dipoles over the volume, although I don't believe the value is given in a materials data sheet.

Yes tou are right . I am going to calculate the EMF(v) later as the magnet will be in motion at the same distance as the above drawing .
He magnet will be N35 or N52 but it can be of any force the formula should be able to handle any type,of magnet and it T strength . The magnet will be a ring and it will rotate on its axis at some kind of rpm . But still this things shouldn't effect the formula . Any per idea ?
 
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benofer90 said:
Yes you are right . I am going to calculate the EMF(v) later as the magnet in motion at the some distance as the above drawing .

The magnet will be N35 or N52 but it can be of any force. The formula I am seeking should be able to handle any type of magnet and its T strength.

The magnet will be a ring and it will rotate on its axis at some kind of RPM . But still these things should not effect the formula .

any thoughts of how to calculate?
 

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