Fourier transform of Logarithm ?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the Fourier transform of the function f(x) = ln|x| in the sense of distributions. Participants explore various methods and challenges associated with this integral, including the treatment of the absolute value and the complexities of integrating logarithmic functions in the context of Fourier transforms.

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  • One participant inquires about the Fourier transform of ln|x|, suggesting the integral involves splitting the function into cases for positive and negative x.
  • Another participant discusses the definition of the Fourier transform in the distributional sense, expressing skepticism about the feasibility of the task and suggesting a focus on estimating integrals.
  • A different participant references a result from Wolfram Integrator regarding integrals involving ln(x) and the exponential integral, proposing that known asymptotic properties might aid in solving the problem.
  • One suggestion involves using complex analysis and the Residue Theorem to approach the integral in the complex plane.
  • Another participant proposes integration by parts as a method to transform the problem into finding the Fourier transform of 1/x, referencing a property from the Fourier transform literature.
  • A participant expresses gratitude for the new method and discusses difficulties in evaluating limits related to the expression exp(-iωx)/x as x approaches negative infinity, questioning the application of Euler's identity to conclude that the limit approaches zero.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple competing views and methods for tackling the problem, with no consensus reached on a definitive approach or solution. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best method to calculate the Fourier transform of ln|x|.

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Participants note the complexity of the integral and the potential need for careful treatment of limits and asymptotic behavior, indicating that assumptions about convergence and the behavior of functions at infinity are critical to the discussion.

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does anyone know how to calculate (in the sense of distribution) the Fourier transform of

f(x)= ln|x|

that is to obtain the integral \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} dx ln|x|exp(iux)
 
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I guess the absolute value is the problem?

<br /> \ln|x| = \begin{cases} \ln ( x), &amp; \mbox{if } x \ge 0 \\ \ln (-x), &amp; \mbox{if } x &lt; 0. \end{cases} <br />

Now you can split up the integral in a part that goes from -infinity to 0 and from 0 to infinity.
 
Do I remember the definition of a distribution sense Fourier transform correctly, when I think that you want to learn something about the mapping

<br /> s\mapsto \int\limits_{-\infty}^{\infty}\Big(\int\limits_{-\infty}^{\infty} s(x)e^{iux} dx\Big) \log|u| du,<br />

where s:\mathbb{R}\to\mathbb{R} is a Schwartz test function?

Looks pretty difficult task to me. Do you have some reason to believe that there exists something that could be done with these integrals?

update:

The expression I wrote is precisely the same thing as this:

<br /> \lim_{R\to\infty} \int\limits_{-\infty}^{\infty} s(x) \Big(\int\limits_{-R}^R \log|u| e^{iux} du\Big) dx<br />

So it could be that the definition using Schwartz test function looks like unnecessarily complicated. It's really only about the old fashioned "integrate first, take limit last"-stuff. In this case it could be the best to only to estimate the integral

<br /> \int\limits_{-R}^R \log|u| e^{iux} du<br />

and try to solve some relevant behavior in the limit R\to\infty.
 
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Wolfram Integrator told that some integral function of \log(x)e^{Ax} would be

<br /> \frac{1}{A}\log(x)e^{Ax} - \frac{1}{A}\textrm{Ei}(Ax),<br />

where Ei is the exponential integral. (Wolfram, Wikipedia)

It could be, that the problem can be solved by using some known asymptotic properties of the exponential integral.
 
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I think you can try to solve it using complex analysis. Consider the complex plan with z = x+iy. Now the integral can be solved in the complex domain, uisng Residue Theorem. Hope this helps.
 
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Thanks for the new method. It does solve most of the problem as the Fourier transform of 1/x was available in the table(entry 309). I had one problem, though. I am stuck at evaluating the limit for the expression exp(-i\omegax)/x at the limits x approaching negative infinity. Can I use the Euler's identity and reason that as the sin and cos terms are always between -1 and 1, then as x approaches infinity on any side, it will always evaluate to zero. So, is the correct answer pi*w*sqn(w)
 
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Jivesh said:
Thanks for the new method. It does solve most of the problem as the Fourier transform of 1/x was available in the table(entry 309). I had one problem, though. I am stuck at evaluating the limit for the expression exp(-i\omegax)/x at the limits x approaching negative infinity. Can I use the Euler's identity and reason that as the sin and cos terms are always between -1 and 1, then as x approaches infinity on any side, it will always evaluate to zero. So, is the correct answer pi*w*sqn(w)

Show the magnitude goes to zero. The magnitude of the numerator is one.
 
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