Fourier transform of the sawtooth function

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The discussion revolves around the Fourier transform of the sawtooth function defined on a specific interval, with participants exploring the differences between two methods of calculating its Fourier transform.

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  • Participants discuss the application of the Fourier transform to the sawtooth function and question the discrepancies between two derived forms of its transform. There is an exploration of the implications of treating the sawtooth function as an integral of a rectangular pulse.

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Some participants have offered hints and corrections regarding the application of the Fourier transform, while others have acknowledged misunderstandings in the initial approach. The conversation reflects an ongoing examination of the definitions and properties involved.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the proper definition of the functions involved and their respective Fourier transforms, as well as the implications of integrating over specific intervals.

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Let the sawtooth function be defined as follows:

h(t) = t, 0<t<1,
h(t) = 0, elsewhere

The problem is two explain the reason for difference between the following two forms of the Fourier transform of h(t), which is denoted as H(f).

First method is straightforward, i.e., use the Fourier transform. Hence, we have:

H(f)= int (-inf to inf) t*exp(-j*2*pi*f*t) dt
H(f)= int (0 to 1) t*exp(-j*2*pi*f*t) dt

Then, using integration by part, we get (skipping some tedious steps)

H(f)= 1/(j*2*pi*f) * [sinc(f)*exp(-j*pi*f) - exp(-j*2*pi*f)].

On the other hand, if we think the sawtooth function h(t) as the integral of a rectangular pulse g(t), which is given as:

g(t)=1, 0<t<1,
g(t)=0, elsewhere,

such that h(t)=int (-inf to t) g(t) dt, then, using Fourier property (integration in the time domain), we get the following result:

H(f)=1/(j*2*pi*f) * sinc(f)*exp(-j*pi*f) + 1/2*dirac(f).

As you see these two results are different. Why?.. What is the mistake? Any help will be appreciated.
 
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Hint: Is

[tex]\int_{-\infty}^2 g(t)\,dt[/tex]

equal to h(2)?
 
Ops..! got it :)

So,

g(t) = rect(t-1/2) - dirac(t-1).

many thanks vela.
 
jashua said:
Let the sawtooth function be defined as follows:

h(t) = t, 0<t<1,
h(t) = 0, elsewhere

The problem is two explain the reason for difference between the following two forms of the Fourier transform of h(t), which is denoted as H(f).

First method is straightforward, i.e., use the Fourier transform. Hence, we have:

H(f)= int (-inf to inf) t*exp(-j*2*pi*f*t) dt
H(f)= int (0 to 1) t*exp(-j*2*pi*f*t) dt

Then, using integration by part, we get (skipping some tedious steps)

H(f)= 1/(j*2*pi*f) * [sinc(f)*exp(-j*pi*f) - exp(-j*2*pi*f)].

On the other hand, if we think the sawtooth function h(t) as the integral of a rectangular pulse g(t), which is given as:

g(t)=1, 0<t<1,
g(t)=0, elsewhere,

such that h(t)=int (-inf to t) g(t) dt, then, using Fourier property (integration in the time domain), we get the following result:

H(f)=1/(j*2*pi*f) * sinc(f)*exp(-j*pi*f) + 1/2*dirac(f).

As you see these two results are different. Why?.. What is the mistake? Any help will be appreciated.

Your first H(f) = int (-inf to inf) t*exp(-j*2*pi*f*t) dt is not the F.T of the sawtooth function h(t); it is the F.T of the function k(t) = t for all t in R. Of course, your second form H(f)= int (0 to 1) t*exp(-j*2*pi*f*t) dt is correct for h(t).

RGV
 
thank you very much for your correction in my question.
 

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