Fractional increase of energy vs momentum with relativity

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between energy and momentum in the context of relativity, specifically examining the fractional increases of each quantity. Participants are analyzing equations related to relativistic energy and momentum, exploring how changes in momentum affect energy and vice versa.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to derive relationships between changes in energy and momentum using relativistic equations. Some participants question the validity of assuming constant velocity in their calculations, while others explore identities related to the Lorentz factor.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with each other's approaches, noting similarities in results. There is a discussion about the correctness of a provided solution, with some asserting that their derived result of 0.81% differs from the stated 1% in the solution. This indicates a productive exploration of the topic, though no consensus has been reached regarding the accuracy of the solution.

Contextual Notes

There is an ongoing examination of assumptions, particularly regarding the constancy of velocity and its implications for the calculations being discussed. Participants are also reflecting on the implications of their findings in relation to established solutions.

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Homework Statement
If the momentum of the electron moving with a velocity 0.9c is increased by 1% then the increase in its energy is

0.81%
0.9%
1%
0.5%
Relevant Equations
##E^2 = p^2c^2 + m_0^2c^4##

##E=mc^2##
My attempt:
##E^2 = p^2c^2 + m_0^2c^4##
##2E dE = 2pc^2 dp ##
##\frac{dE}{E} = \frac{pc^2}{E^2}dp=\frac{p^2c^2}{E^2}## % (dp/p = 1%)
##=\frac{E^2-m_0^2c^4}{E^2}## %

##=1-\frac{m_0^2c^4}{E^2}## %
##=1-\frac{m_0^2c^4}{m^2c^4}## %
##=1-\frac{1}{\gamma ^2}## %

##=\frac{v^2}{c^2} ##%
=0.81 %Solution given:

p=mv
ln(p) = ln(m) + ln(v)
##\frac{dp}{p}=\frac{dm}{m}## = 1%

Now doing the same with ##E=mc^2##,
##\frac{dE}{E}=\frac{dm}{m}## = 1%

Is taking velocity constant a good idea?
 
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There is a useful identity here: $$\gamma = \sqrt{(\frac{v\gamma}{c})^2 +1}$$ Then it's just some arithmetic.
 
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That's a nice one.

But it's producing same result as mine and the answer is coming to be 0.81%So is the solution provided( which says 1%) wrong?
 
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Kaguro said:
That's a nice one.

But it's producing same result as mine and the answer is coming to be 0.81%So is the solution provided( which says 1%) wrong?
Yes, it's definitely ##0.81 \%##.
 
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Thanks very much!
 

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