Frames of Reference: Using tie-downs to hold a load on a flatbed truck

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The discussion revolves around the application of forces in the context of a load secured on a flatbed truck, specifically examining the roles of static and kinetic friction, normal force, and the effects of tie-down straps. Participants are exploring the balance of forces acting on the load in both the horizontal and vertical directions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the net force acting on the load and its implications for static versus kinetic friction. There are questions about the correct formulation of the equations for forces in both the x and y directions, as well as the role of normal force and the impact of tie-down straps on frictional forces.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between the forces involved, with some participants offering insights into the calculations of normal force and friction. Multiple interpretations of the force equations are being considered, and guidance has been provided regarding the inclusion of tie-down straps in the calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of force interactions, particularly how the presence of tie-down straps affects the normal force and friction. There is an emphasis on ensuring all forces are accounted for in the equations being discussed.

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Homework Statement
A flatbed truck has a 2000.0 kg component of a pre-fab house placed on its flatbed. If the coefficient of static and kinetic friction, respectively, between the pallet and the flatbed is 0.150 and 0.100, and the truck starts at rest and accelerates to a speed of 65.0 km/h over a distance of 50.0 m. The component is strapped down by tie straps wrapped over the top of the house component so as to push down on it; with what force must the tie straps push down on the house component in order to prevent the truck from slipping while accelerating?
Relevant Equations
Fnet = ma, Ff = coeff of friction * normal force, Fnet = 0 when not accelerating
I calculated the net force. I got 6500. I determined this is bigger than the force of static friction so the force of friction acting on the object must be kinetic. From there I got kinda lost. I know for the component to not slip Fnetx = 0 and Fnety = 0. But I'm not sure what to do from there? Is it (in the y-dir) 0 =Fn - Fstraps - Fg? Or (in the x-dir) 0=Ff+Ffict-Fstraps?
 
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daisy7777 said:
this is bigger than the force of static friction
What is the normal force? Don't forget the straps.
 
haruspex said:
What is the normal force? Don't forget the straps
Wait so the force of friction is gonna be Ff = coeff of friction * (Fstraps + Fgravity)?
 
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daisy7777 said:
Wait so the force of friction is gonna be Ff = coeff of friction * (Fstraps + Fgravity)?
Yes. If the magnitude of the normal force were only Fg then you would have Fg acting up on the slab but Fg+straps acting down on it, so it would be accelerating downwards!
 

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