Min Force to keep from Slipping

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The problem involves a block weighing 70.6 N on an inclined plane at an angle of 26.9 degrees. The coefficients of static and kinetic friction are provided, and the objective is to determine the minimum force required to prevent the block from slipping down the plane.

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  • Participants discuss breaking down the forces acting on the block, including gravitational components and frictional forces. There are attempts to set up equations based on these forces, with some questioning the correctness of their equations and the role of static versus kinetic friction.

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There are various interpretations of the equations needed to solve for the force. Some participants suggest corrections to the equations, while others clarify the role of static friction in the context of the problem. Guidance has been offered regarding the direction of forces and the need to focus on static friction.

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Some participants express confusion over variable definitions and the application of friction types, indicating a need for clarification on these concepts. The discussion reflects uncertainty about the correct setup of the equations and the implications of the forces involved.

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Homework Statement



A block weighing 70.6 N rests on a plane inclined at 26.9o to the horizontal. The coefficients of static and kinetic friction are 0.23 and 0.14 respectively. What is the minimum magnitude of the force F, parallel to the plane, that will prevent the block from slipping?

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Homework Equations



F=m*a

us*Fn = static friction


The Attempt at a Solution



I split force of gravity into its components. (Y DIRECTION). I found the Fn to equal mg cos theta

decided that for the X DIRECTION to do

F - usFn - mg sin theta = m * a... then I made A = 0... which made the [ ...left side... = 0 ]

Then I solved for F... which gave me 48.1799 N.

But unfortunately this is wrong. Any Ideas? Thank you!
 

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More of my attempt...
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Y Direction:

Sum F = M * A
Fn-mg = 0
Fn = mgcosTheta <---- I got this from breaking gravity into it's components.

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X Direction:

Sum F = M * A
F - Static Friction - mgSinTheta = 0
F = uS*Fm - mgsinTheta

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Can you please give me some direction? Thank you!
 
SnowboardNerd said:
Fn = mgcosTheta <---- I got this from breaking gravity into it's components.

F - Static Friction - mgSinTheta = 0
First equation is OK.

Now you were asked for the minimum force. Hence the block will tend to slip DOWNWARDS. Therefore frictional force is UP the plane.
If you correct the 2nd equation you are OK.
 
F - (0.23)(70.6cos(26.9)) - (70.6)sin(26.9)) = 0

F - Kintic Friction - mgSinTheta = 0

^^ Is that what you meant?

Thank you.
 
what is Fm ? kinetic friction doesn't come into the picture
 
I think Fn = W... so in the beginning when they said that it's W = 70.6 that means that Fn = 70.6?
 
I thought you ment Fn... I'm not sure what the variable Fm stands for
 
SnowboardNerd said:
F - (0.23)(70.6cos(26.9)) - (70.6)sin(26.9)) = 0

No that is not what I meant.
The first minus must be changed into plus since friction is up in same direction as the applied force F.
All is at rest so kinetic friction is out.
 
the downward component of the weight is more than the maximum static frictional force...
so you will need to apply the amount of force in the upward direction, which is the difference between the two
 
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IssacNewton said:
the downward component of the weight is more than the maximum static frictional force...
so you will need to apply the amount of force in the upward direction, which is the difference between the two
Correct!
 

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