Framework Problem: Constructing Engine Mount for Airplane

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Hi!
I'm currently doing a project where I'm constructing a framework for an engine mount connecting an airplane with an engine. The project involves both calculations by hand and with CAD(Creo), and i have no problem with the CAD part as i have done the simulations.
The part with doing calculations by hand have caused some problems where I'm doing the calculations in 3-D, and its causing some problems.
The top and bottom diagonals are not to be considered in the calculation by hand. Therefore you have 6 symmetrical beams.
So far what I have done in the calculations is that I've created a equation system with help of directional cosines which seems to get me the wrong answers. So I'm looking for some help in creating the equations system for this problem.
 
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  • Wireframe box outline beside a vertical plane, with a three-dimensional truss of blue cylindrical members connecting the plane to the box's corner area, forming zigzag diagonal bars.
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  • Wireframe box outline beside a vertical flat plate, with a 3-D truss of blue cylindrical members connecting the plate to the box corners, with diagonal bracing between them.
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  • Wireframe diagram of an engine mount framework with a y-z-x coordinate axes, two square end frames with corner nodes labelled in mm, and a central engine point marked at (0,142,621).
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3D wireframe sketch of a truss-like frame: blue cylindrical members form a zigzag of diagonal bars joining a vertical plane on the left to a rectangular box outline on the right.


I don't understand .

If you take the top and bottom diagonals away then you just have two independent frames .

The three components of anyone of the frames are all in the same plane . For any likely system of loads and fixations the analysis is trivial ?
 
Nidum said:
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I don't understand .

If you take the top and bottom diagonals away then you just have two independent frames .

The three components of anyone of the frames are all in the same plane . For any likely system of loads and fixations the analysis is trivial ?

Thanks for the answer Nidium! So what you're suggesting is that we divide the two frames and calculate the forces on one of the pairs, then suggest symmetry?

I also forgot to mention that we have two different forces affecting the framework, one is mg and one is thrust force.

We can't seem to get this right on account of having little knowledge in 3-dimensional calculations.
 
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  • 3D diagram of a framework with a box-shaped engine mount, nodes labelled with coordinates in mm such as (225,250,0), (-105,218,348), (0,142,621), and forces of 2500 N along x and 730 N downward along y.
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If you are trying to create a composite equation including all elements and loads then you are making the problem more difficult than it needs to be. You would be better off to simply do independent analyses on the different frame structure sections. By transferring the thrust load and the lateral force moment to the back plate then analyzing those loads independently and summing those results the analysis should be straight forward. Since mg is still a force load its components should be able to be combined with static lateral and thrust loads.