Free body diagram and force vectors

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Attached, where AC=BC=2R and CD=CE=3R. I need to work out the force the cylinder exerts on the cross section (in order to work out the moment at C). So first I'm trying to work out the free body diagrams for this system. Is it as I've attached? How do I draw the tension vector? And then I'm having a hard time defining and decomposing the force vectors in terms of theta, mg etc. Can anyone lend a hand?
 
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  • Diagram of a cylinder of radius R resting inside a V-shaped frame with pivot C, arms CA and CB crossing at C, a horizontal chord DE, and angle theta marked at the top of the crossing.
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  • Hand-drawn free-body diagram of a cross-shaped member with a line labelled Theta at the centre, arrows labelled N1 and N2 pointing outward, dashed components marked with question marks, and the heading 'cross pieces'.
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  • Handwritten free-body diagram of a cylinder on grid paper, with two normal force arrows N1 and N2 pointing inward at the left and right sides, a downward arrow labelled Mg, and the note |N1| = |N2| = N beside it.
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hi samjohnny! :smile:

we need to know a little more …

are CD and CE hinged at C?​
samjohnny said:
So first I'm trying to work out the free body diagrams for this system. Is it as I've attached? How do I draw the tension vector?

it would be easier to start with the free body diagram of the cylinder

your puzzlement as to how to draw the tension is caused by choosing the wrong body

a free body diagram shows all the external forces on a body, so it won't show up on a body for which it's an internal force!

you need to do it for one rod :wink:

(the symmetry makes that a lot easier than it would otherwise be)
 
tiny-tim said:
hi samjohnny! :smile:

we need to know a little more …

are CD and CE hinged at C?​
it would be easier to start with the free body diagram of the cylinder

your puzzlement as to how to draw the tension is caused by choosing the wrong body

a free body diagram shows all the external forces on a body, so it won't show up on a body for which it's an internal force!

you need to do it for one rod :wink:

(the symmetry makes that a lot easier than it would otherwise be)

Hey! Thanks for the reply.

Yeah they're connected at C. Cool, I see what you mean. I'll take another crack at it.