Free fall: total distance expressed in terms of distance fallen in nth second

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The problem involves a body falling vertically from rest, with a focus on expressing the total distance fallen by the end of the nth second in terms of the distance fallen during that specific second. The subject area relates to kinematics and the equations of motion under constant acceleration due to gravity.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the distance fallen in the nth second and the total distance fallen after n seconds. There are attempts to derive expressions for both distances and questions about the validity of substitutions made in the equations.

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The discussion has seen participants providing hints and guidance on deriving relationships between the distances. There is an ongoing exploration of the arithmetic involved in the calculations, with some participants expressing uncertainty about their results and seeking further clarification.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the amount of direct assistance they can receive. There is an acknowledgment of potential misunderstandings in the mathematical manipulations involved.

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Homework Statement


A body falls vertically from rest. During the nth second it falls a distance d. Prove that by the end of the nth second it has fallen a total distance (D) of (2d+g)^2/8g


Homework Equations


x = x0 + V0 + 1/2at^2
where
x0 = initial position
v0 = initial velocity
a = acceleration
t = time


The Attempt at a Solution


The total distance is D = 1/2gn^2 because the object has fallen for n seconds. At the end of the first second d=D and t^2 = 2d/g. I'm unsure about how to proceed from here. Any help gratefully received...
 
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jemerlia, welcome to PF!

Hint: What is the distance fallen after (n-1) seconds?
 
Thanks for the hint - clearly the distance d is given by
d = 1/2gn^2 - 1/2g(n-1)^2
which (according to my rusty maths) simplifies
= 1/2g(2n-1)

It appears that t^2 = 2d/g is useful here but substitution appears to give nonsense. I 've obviously missed or misunderstood something.
 
{d = 1/2gn^2 - 1/2g(n-1)^2
which (according to my rusty maths) simplifies
= 1/2*g*(2n-1)}
This is right. Now find n in terms of d and g.
Now the total distance fallen in n seconds is D = 1/2*g*n^2. Substitute the value of n. You will get the required answer.
 
Many thanks for the help during the "holidays"...

Because d = 1/2 * g * (2n-1) then

n = (2*d/g + 1) / 2

= d/g + 1/2

However, when n is substituted into

D = 1/2*g*n^2

as

D = 1/2*g*(d/g + 1/2)^2

it does not produce the expected result. I guess I have a problem with the arithmetic somewhere... advice gratefully received...
 
D = 1/2*g*(d/g + 1/2)^2

D = 1/2*g*(2d + g)^2*1/4g^2
= (2d + g )^2/8g
 
Thank you to everyone who gave their time to help me with this problem. It has served to identify the areas I must work on.
 

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