Freely Falling Inertial As Seen By Distant Inertial Observer

In summary, A will need both Special Relativity (SR) and General Relativity (GR) to calculate B's time and space dilation as determined by A's Inertial Reference Frame (IRF). This is because gravity is involved in this scenario, and GR is necessary for any situation involving gravity. Additionally, A's IRF cannot be considered a global inertial frame due to the presence of gravity. This means that SR cannot be used exclusively since the spacetime is not flat in this case. However, SR can still be used as an approximation in the vicinity of A.
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1977ub
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Apologies if this is in a FAQ somewhere.

A is out in deep space.

B is falling toward the planet.

Does A need both SR & GR to calculate B's time/space dilation as determine by A's IRF?
 
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You need GR anytime gravity is involved which it is in this case.
 
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1977ub said:
Does A need both SR & GR to calculate B's time/space dilation as determine by A's IRF?

What you are calling "A's IRF" is not actually a global inertial frame. Locally, near A, it will look like an inertial frame; but it will *not* look like an inertial frame closer to the planet. There is no such thing as a global inertial frame when gravity is present. So you will need GR, as ghwellsjr says.
 
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Thanks. so basically it doesn't even make sense to speak of an "SR piece" since the spacetime is not flat there.
 
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1977ub said:
Thanks. so basically it doesn't even make sense to speak of an "SR piece" since the spacetime is not flat there.

Correct. Far enough away from the planet, in the vicinity of A, you can still use SR as a good approximation since the spacetime is approximately flat there. But that won't allow you to model B's motion since B does not remain far away from the planet.
 

1. What is freely falling inertial?

Freely falling inertial refers to the motion of an object in a gravitational field without any external forces acting upon it. This means that the object is moving solely due to the gravitational force and is not being influenced by any other forces like air resistance or friction.

2. What is an inertial frame of reference?

An inertial frame of reference is a frame of reference in which Newton's first law of motion holds true. This means that an object at rest will remain at rest and an object in motion will continue to move with a constant velocity unless acted upon by an external force.

3. What does "as seen by distant inertial observer" mean?

This phrase refers to the perspective of an observer who is located far away from the freely falling object and is in an inertial frame of reference. This observer will see the object moving in a straight line with a constant velocity, as per Newton's first law of motion.

4. How does the concept of freely falling inertial relate to Einstein's theory of relativity?

Einstein's theory of relativity states that the laws of physics are the same for all observers in uniform motion. This means that the concept of freely falling inertial is consistent with this theory, as the object's motion is not affected by the observer's frame of reference.

5. Can an object be in a state of freely falling inertial indefinitely?

Yes, an object can remain in a state of freely falling inertial indefinitely as long as there are no external forces acting upon it. This is known as free fall or weightlessness, which is often experienced by astronauts in orbit around the Earth.

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