Frequency, and finding wave speed. Professor mistake?

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The discussion revolves around calculating frequency and wave speed in the context of sound and ocean waves. The original poster presents two problems related to these topics, expressing confusion over discrepancies between their calculations and the answers provided in a study guide.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the relationship between frequency, wavelength, and wave speed, questioning the formulas used and the interpretation of given values. There is a focus on clarifying the correct application of equations and the definitions of terms like period and frequency.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the correct formulas and the interpretation of the problems. There is acknowledgment of errors in the study guide, and attempts to clarify the calculations are ongoing. Multiple interpretations of the problems are being explored, particularly regarding the relationship between frequency, wavelength, and speed.

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Participants note potential errors in the study guide and discuss the implications of these errors on their understanding of the problems. There is also mention of the need to carefully consider units and the definitions of terms used in the equations.

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I am studying for an upcoming test, and it is known that there are hiccups in our study guide. I am stuck on two problems.

Homework Statement



1. What is the frequency, in Hz, of a sound wave (v=340 m/s) with a wavelength of 10 m?

2. A series of ocean waves, each 8 m from crest to crest and moving past an observer at a rate of 2 waves per second, has what speed?


Homework Equations



1. Frequency= 1 / Period

2. V = Lambda / Period


The Attempt at a Solution



1. I get the answer .029, but the study guide says 0.0029 Hz?

2. I get the answer 4, but study guide says 16?


Any help is appreciated!
 
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ShineyPenny said:
I am studying for an upcoming test, and it is known that there are hiccups in our study guide. I am stuck on two problems.

Homework Statement



1. What is the frequency, in Hz, of a sound wave (v=340 m/s) with a wavelength of 10 m?

2. A series of ocean waves, each 8 m from crest to crest and moving past an observer at a rate of 2 waves per second, has what speed?


Homework Equations



1. Frequency= 1 / Period

2. V = Lambda / Period


The Attempt at a Solution



1. I get the answer .029, but the study guide says 0.0029 Hz?
Can you show your actual calculation? I don't get either of those answers.

2. I get the answer 4, but study guide says 16?
One wave (crest to crest) is 8 m, so two waves would be ____m?
 
Sure thing

1. Sorry...slight mix up in answers, the sheet says .029 but I am getting .0029. 1 / 340 = .0029. Am I even doing the right formula for this?

2. OK, so it is 16. Why am I using V=Lambda x Period and not V=Lambda / Period?
 
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ShineyPenny said:
Sure thing

1. Sorry...slight mix up in answers, the sheet says .029 but I am getting .0029. 1 / 340 = .0029. Am I even doing the right formula for this?
Both of these answers are wrong unless you read it wrong.You need to combine both formulas to get the answer.

ShineyPenny said:
2. OK, so it is 16. Why am I using V=Lambda x Period and not V=Lambda / Period?
No. V=Lambda / Period and V=lambda*frequency.
 
For problem one, I notified the professor and he said the guide is incorrect...the answer is 34. Now it all makes sense for that one!

For problem two, whoops >.<

I take it I only use V=Lambda*Period and f=1/Period if I am only given the period and I'm trying to discover Velocity or Frequency (respectfully).
 
1) Start by getting an equation in the right form for what you are trying to find. You are looking to find Frequency from Wavelength (i.e. Lambda) and Velocity, so your expression must contain all these quantities. If you do that you should get the expected answer.

2)Using V = Lambda / Period, the Period is not 2;

"2 waves per second" means Frequency = 2 Hz. Period = 1 / Frequency, so Period= 0.5s
 
ShineyPenny said:
I take it I only use V=Lambda*Period and f=1/Period if I am only given the period and I'm trying to discover Velocity or Frequency (respectfully).

No V is never Lambda*Period. Look at the units length*time is not velocity.In this case you get the correct number but not the correct answer.Always look at your units and numbers and think if they make any sense. Also if you have equations containing the same terms you can always combine them but be careful with the math.
 

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