Frequency of a constant function

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the frequency of a constant function, particularly in the context of Fourier analysis. Participants explore the mathematical implications of defining frequency for a constant signal, considering both theoretical and experimental perspectives.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why a constant signal, which has no fundamental period, does not correspond to an infinite frequency, despite the relationship ##f = 1/T## suggesting that as ##T## approaches zero, frequency would approach infinity.
  • Another participant points out that a constant signal can be derived from the cosine function by allowing the angular frequency ##\omega## to approach zero, rather than infinity.
  • A follow-up inquiry seeks clarification on the implications of using the formula ##f = 1/T## in this context.
  • Another perspective suggests considering the limit as ##T## approaches infinity, noting that a constant signal does not cross zero, which may provide insight into its frequency characteristics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the interpretation of frequency for constant signals, with no consensus reached on the mathematical reasoning behind the treatment of such signals in Fourier analysis.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the ambiguity surrounding the definitions of frequency and period for constant functions, as well as the dependence on the limits applied to ##T## and ##\omega##.

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Just a quick question that I feel should be simple, but I'm unable to come up with a satisfactory answer.

A constant signal has an arbitrarily small period (rather, it has no fundamental period), and so it seems to me that this means the frequency of a constant signal grows without bound. However, in Fourier analysis, for instance, we treat constant signals as having a frequency component only at ##f = 0##. Why, mathematically, can we not say that a constant signal has (approaching) infinite frequency since ##f = 1/T## and a constant function has arbitrarily small ##T##? I mean, certainly from an experimental basis (i.e. Designing a high pass filter to get rid of a constant component of a signal), ##f=0## corresponds to a constant signal, but I'd like a mathematical reason for this.
 
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You get a constant signal from ##\cos (\omega t)## if you let ##\omega \downarrow 0##, definitely not if you let ##\omega \rightarrow \infty##
 
BvU said:
You get a constant signal from ##\cos (\omega t)## if you let ##\omega \downarrow 0##, definitely not if you let ##\omega \rightarrow \infty##

Ah yes, of course. Then what's the issue with looking at it in terms of ##f=1/T##?
 
You can look at it from the perspective of ##T\rightarrow\infty##: the signal never crosses the zero...
 

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