Frictional force and work problem

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The problem involves a frictional force acting on a woman sliding down a slope inclined at 45 degrees. The scenario includes calculating the magnitude of the frictional force given the height of the slide, the woman's speed at the bottom, and the work done by friction.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between work done by friction and the distance traveled along the slope, questioning the use of trigonometric functions in their calculations.

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Some participants have offered guidance on the correct interpretation of the distance traveled by the frictional force, suggesting that the hypotenuse should be used instead of the horizontal distance. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of the initial velocity on the problem.

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Participants are working under the constraints of the problem statement and are questioning the assumptions made regarding the distance and angle in their calculations.

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Homework Statement



A slide similar to der stuka is 35.0 meters high but is a straight slope,inclined at 45.0 degrees with respect to the horizontal. If a 60kg woman has the speed of 20.0m/s at the bottom and the work done by frictional force on the woman is -8.58 x 1000J, find the magnitude of the force of friction.


Homework Equations



Work done by frictional force = Frictional force cos 45 x horizontal distance



The Attempt at a Solution



using the equation:
-8580 = F cos 45 x 35

i am getting double the correct answer...can u tell me what am i doing wrong
 
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billu77 said:

Homework Statement



A slide similar to der stuka is 35.0 meters high but is a straight slope,inclined at 45.0 degrees with respect to the horizontal. If a 60kg woman has the speed of 20.0m/s at the bottom and the work done by frictional force on the woman is -8.58 x 1000J, find the magnitude of the force of friction.

Homework Equations



Work done by frictional force = Frictional force cos 45 x horizontal distance

The Attempt at a Solution



using the equation:
-8580 = F cos 45 x 35

i am getting double the correct answer...can u tell me what am i doing wrong

You have to divide the height by cos 45

AM
 
Hi billu77! :wink:
billu77 said:
-8580 = F cos 45 x 35

i am getting double the correct answer...can u tell me what am i doing wrong

yes … work done = force times distance, the height is 35, so the distance along the slide is … ? :smile:
 
Your trig function is wrong. W=Fdcos(0), since the work the friction done is 8580 J, then W=8580. The distance the friction gone through is Hypotenuse, which is 35/sin(45) rather than 35*cos(45). F=8580/(35/sin(45))=8580*sin(45)/35=173. I am not sure what the initial velocity is doing though.
 
caitlincui said:
Your trig function is wrong. W=Fdcos(0), since the work the friction done is 8580 J, then W=8580. The distance the friction gone through is Hypotenuse, which is 35/sin(45) rather than 35*cos(45). F=8580/(35/sin(45))=8580*sin(45)/35=173. I am not sure what the initial velocity is doing though.

thanks...i did not pay attention to the fact that frictional force is just acting along the slide and not at an angle...appreciate ur help
 

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