From undergrad to professor at a top tier university: how should I do it?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the aspirations and challenges of becoming a professor in physics, particularly at a top-tier university. Participants explore the necessary steps, experiences, and realities of pursuing an academic career in physics, including the competitive nature of the field and the importance of building a strong resume during undergraduate and graduate studies.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to become a successful researcher and professor in physics, emphasizing the need for a strong resume and experience during their academic career.
  • Another participant highlights the competitive job market, noting that many PhDs face challenges in securing positions, with some earning low salaries in academia.
  • Some participants argue that while dreams are important, a realistic understanding of the job market is crucial, as many qualified candidates compete for limited positions.
  • There are suggestions for building a strong CV, including focusing on coursework, gaining research experience, and developing people skills.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of involvement in university activities and community programs to enhance one's profile and network.
  • Another participant reiterates that starting early in preparation does not guarantee success, as many others will also be striving for the same opportunities.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the challenges and competitive nature of securing a professorship in physics, but there is no consensus on the best approach to achieving this goal. Some express optimism about their chances, while others stress the harsh realities of the academic job market.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the limitations of their advice, including the uncertainty of job availability and the variability of individual experiences in academia. The discussion reflects a range of perspectives on the feasibility of achieving a professorship at a top-tier university.

  • #31
Who Am I said:
It's funny, because people here are talking like I don't know what it takes.

Because you don't.

I don't think you realize how painful and agonizing the process is, and what a gut-wrenching experience it will be. Right now, you don't realize how cruel and nasty things can be and will be in academia.

But that's fine. I don't expect you to accept anything that I'm saying right now. You'll figure it out for yourself, but I can plant a seed in the back of your mind, that will be useful at some point in the future.
 
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  • #32
Remember that even the venerable Einstein was once a lowly patent clerk. Everyone starts somewhere.

What's amusing is that Einstein did all of his best work while he was a patent clerk. Once he became a famous professor, he was never able to do useful research. Personally, I think that becoming a professor was something of a demotion for him.
 

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