Frozen broccoli thermodynamics

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The discussion centers on the thermodynamics involved in cooking frozen broccoli in a microwave. The user experienced a phenomenon where the cover of a plastic bowl was sucked into the bowl due to differential air pressure after cooking. The mechanism involves intermittent boiling of water, condensation of steam, and the resulting vacuum effect. The cooking time was six minutes, and the broccoli was deemed adequately cooked.

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I was cooking frozen broccoli in a microwave with a couple of tablespoons of water in a plastic bowl. I left the cover loose to prevent steam pressurization. When I opened the microwave, the cover had been sucked into the bowl due to differential air pressure.

What is the mechanism?
 
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Frabjous said:
I was cooking frozen broccoli in a microwave with a couple of tablespoons of water in a plastic bowl. I left the cover loose to prevent steam pressurization. When I opened the microwave, the cover had been sucked into the bowl due to differential air pressure.

What is the mechanism?
First it heated up (air out), then it cooled down (tried to suck air back in).
 
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Frabjous said:
What is the mechanism?
I would speculate that the water in the plastic bowl was intermittently boiling due to rotation of the bowl in to and out of the "hot spot" in the microwave. Meanwhile, the ambient temperature within the microwave was below the boiling point. This led to the steam in the bowl condensing and sucking the top on.

This is similar to home canning except for the time scale.
 
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Frabjous said:
I was cooking frozen broccoli in a microwave with a couple of tablespoons of water in a plastic bowl. I left the cover loose to prevent steam pressurization. When I opened the microwave, the cover had been sucked into the bowl due to differential air pressure.

What is the mechanism?
I suspect that enough water evaporated quickly enough so that a significant fraction of the atmosphere in the bowl was water vapor. Upon cooling much of the water vapor condensed - perhaps relatively quickly.

(jbriggs44 beat me to it. )

How well was the broccoli cooked?
 
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SammyS said:
How well was the broccoli cooked?
About right. It was in for six minutes.
 
Sometimes I stretch plastic wrap over the dish/bowl to prevent spatter. Even if I open the door immediately when the timer ends, the wrap will be sucked down onto the contents. It doesn't take long!
 
gmax137 said:
Sometimes I stretch plastic wrap over the dish/bowl to prevent spatter.
Often a deprecated approach.

The plastic has been known to melt and/or even catch fire.

Many people dislike the taste and/or smell of the outgassing of volatiles from the plastic -- and don't care to ingest those volatiles as they drip back down to the food.

Safer to put a plate over the bowl.

Stay safe,
Tom
 
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Tom.G said:
Many people dislike the tast and/or smell of the outgassing of volatiles from the plastic
It can't hurt broccoli. Just kidding.
 
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Frabjous said:
What is the mechanism?
1. Boiling
2. Flushigf most of the air out
3. Remaining water vapor condensed
 
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Tom.G said:
Often a deprecated approach.

The plastic has been known to melt and/or even catch fire.

Many people dislike the taste and/or smell of the outgassing of volatiles from the plastic -- and don't care to ingest those volatiles as they drip back down to the food.

Safer to put a plate over the bowl.

Stay safe,
Tom
He cooked it for six minutes. It's already awful.

Top tip - add olive oil and salt and roast for 20 minutes at 180.
 
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BigInit said:
He cooked it for six minutes. It's already awful.

Top tip - add olive oil and salt and roast for 20 minutes at 180.
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